Imperial Russia Russian badge

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi,

I assume this is a Russian Imperial badge?

Is it a Regimental one?

Thanks

Chris

[TacHel]

Nicholas II cipher... But apart from that... A bit out of my comfort zone. A souvenir from the coronation? A military insignia?

What are the dimensions? Small enough for a lapel pin? Big enough for a cap badge?

[Chris Boonzaier]

A bit smaller than an Iron Cross, I dont have it in my hands yet... It seems to have been souveniered in 1916 along with the guys belt buckle.

Best

Chris

[Chris Boonzaier]

Nicholas II cipher... But apart from that...

Ahhh... I think you are on the right track... must be from his personal Bodyguard :-)

;-)

[paul wood]

A Suite of Nicholas II badge, difficult to tell how nice it is without a better photo.,

Paul

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi Paul,

Thanks, I will hopefully have the pics by the ned of the week.

What is a Suite of Nicholas II badge for?

From what I can see, this was taken from a Russian Soldier in the Karpathans in 1916.

Best

Chris

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi,

I found a mention of the badge... I suppose there are different qualities for different ranks of the badge, this looks to be an Other Ranks one?

Fotos to follow if the Mail does not loose it.

best

Chris

[paul wood]

This looks like a gilt lower ranks badge for pageboys, NCOs and privates in the Imperial Suite.

Paul

[Chris Boonzaier]

Thanks,

I hope to have it in a day or so, will post pics as soon as it is here.

[paul wood]

Chris when you do receive it please post both sides.

Paul

[JapanX]

This looks like a gilt lower ranks badge for pageboys, NCOs and privates in the Imperial Suite.

Does it?!

[JapanX]

[JapanX]

Actually I`ve never heard about badge for "pageboys, NCOs and privates"

Badge in posts 11-12 is not a badge, but sign on cross-belt for the Life-guard hussar regiment of His Majesty.

[paul wood]

That's a particularly nice badge, the one in question looks of considerably inferior quality.

Paul

[JapanX]

As far as I know there were three types of badges (all established on January 21, 1909)

• Badge for those holding the ranks of Major-General and Rear-Admiral in the Suite of the Emperor Nicholas II

• Badge for those holding the rank of aide-de-camp in the Suite of the Emperor Nicholas II

• Badge for those who held two ranks in the Suite of the Emperor Nicholas II

and that`s it.

Edited November 5, 2013 by JapanX

[JapanX]

Badge for those holding the ranks of Major-General and Rear-Admiral in the Suite of the Emperor Nicholas II

Gold wreath of laurel and oak branches bound by a gold ribbon tied in a bow. Inside the wreath is the silver cypher of the Emperor Nicholas II beneath the silver Imperial crown

[paul wood]

Actually I`ve never heard about badge for "pageboys, NCOs and privates"

Badge in posts 11-12 is not a badge, but sign on cross-belt for the Life-guard hussar regiment of His Majesty.

Sorry misinterpretation of Patrikiev's translation

[JapanX]

Badge for those holding the rank of aide-de- camp in the Suite of the Emperor Nicholas II

Silver wreath of laurel and oak branches bound by a silver ribbon tied in a bow. Inside the wreath is the gold cypher of the Emperor Nicholas II beneath the gold Imperial crown

[JapanX]

Badge for those who formerly held two ranksin the Suite of the Emperor Nicholas II

Badge from the collection of the Military Historical Museum of the Artillery in St.Petersburg.

Gold wreath of laurel and oak branches bound by a gold ribbon tied in a bow. Inside the wreath is the gold cypher of the Emperor Nicholas II beneath the gold Imperial crown.

Edited November 5, 2013 by JapanX

[JapanX]

Obviously that badge in post # 1 has nothing to do with these badges.

It looks like ugly phantasy fake.

Like this one

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/59736-russian-1918-civil-war-st-george-medal-info/

P.S.

Sorry misinterpretation of Patrikiev's translation

Believe me dear Paul you were the only reason for my posting in this thread!

[JapanX]

P.S. Just to give you an idea how rare these are Paul

In 1914, in the Imperial Suite were 51 adjutant General, 64 major General and rear Admiral and 56 aide-de-camp

[Chris Boonzaier]

Here is the front and back of the badge, it has been repaired. It originally had pins left and right, so it may have been a collar badge ?

[Chris Boonzaier]

The rest of the souveniers in the group.....

[Chris Boonzaier]

Here is the complete group...

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/60600-3rd-jaeger-regiment-group-with-russian-souveniers/

[TacHel]

Woa... Now that I see it in relation to a belt buckle and buttons, it's about 1/2 the size I expected it to be... It's actually small enough to be a mere lapel pin.