ixhs Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 ...Got some nice stuff. This one arrived today. I bought it on a Auction.My second one with Braunschweig addition. The Henry Lion II. looks good. Between 1912- 1918 only a few hundred were awarded. I think he got it in this era.
ixhs Posted July 2, 2015 Author Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Thanks ! I should ask Dave D. if it would be possible to ID the bar. I think he was prussian, not a citizen of Braunschweig Edited July 2, 2015 by ixhs
Claudius Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 That is quite the "looker". I saw that one as well.That Braunschweig looks great on anything. I would guess it was mounted for civilian wear and not navy. I wonder who this guy is? I hope you can identify him! Perhaps it will lead to understanding what he did to earn his awards.
ixhs Posted July 2, 2015 Author Posted July 2, 2015 I don`t know if the brunswick lists of Henry II have the names or only numbers.May be i can find him in the 1929 list.
lambert Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) It's a beautiful group .. Congratulations! Edited July 2, 2015 by lambert
ixhs Posted July 2, 2015 Author Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Thanks again.What do we know about him? If he was an official he began after 1897 because of no Centenarmedal, seems that he was prussian.He is not an Intendantur-guy , because he is not listed in the 1929 rank list. I think, that he was still alive in that time.He got the war aid cross between 1917 - 1924. May be he got no 25 LSC because he was too young, that is also the reason why a RAO4 is missing.May be he got the Henry II because of his civil merit (it has no X )I have to look into the Siekmann. Edited July 2, 2015 by ixhs
Claudius Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 ...Got some nice stuff. This one arrived today. I bought it on a Auction.My second one with Braunschweig addition. The Henry Lion II. looks good. Between 1912- 1918 only a few hundred were awarded. I think he got it in this era.can we please see the reverse...
ixhs Posted July 2, 2015 Author Posted July 2, 2015 Yes of course http://www.zeige.com/index2.html (--> "Braunschweig")
ixhs Posted July 2, 2015 Author Posted July 2, 2015 I checked the Siekmann.. damn there are only recipients with BrH Ritter 2.Kl. and combinations of RAO, KO or AEZ medals....So i have to check the Brunswick book and the Staatshandbuch of 1918... Or is he a civilian?....
Paul C Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 I don't think there is enough on the bar to make an ID. As Rick used to say "it is a little thin."
ixhs Posted July 5, 2015 Author Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) Correct. I checked many lists - there are too many persons with the Henry II. Edited July 5, 2015 by ixhs
HeikoGrusdat Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 My guess would be a civilian....maybe a factory owner from Brunswick who produced important things for the war...typical combi for such a guy, had a very similar group some years ago
Claudius Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Then the EK2 with combatant’s ribbon confuses me. He was nowhere near the front and he gets a combatant award? Do the regs indicate the award can be bestowed on combatant ribbon to individuals important to the war effort? Nevertheless, I also believe this was mounted for civilian wear. @IXHS I understand that the list of Henry II list is long,. But what is the list you have? Are there any details, like rank? Who was the typical recipient in 1912-1918?
HeikoGrusdat Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Claudius , where do you see a cobattant ribbon? This is a non-com EK2 on White ribbon with black stripes....
ixhs Posted July 6, 2015 Author Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) I have the Brunswick Staatshandbuch of 1915There are different regulations between non combatant and combatant awards.So for example the most of the officials in the war departments got the IC on combatant ribbon or other awards with Xbut they were never on the frontline. He could be an official or a civilian Edited July 6, 2015 by ixhs
Claudius Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Claudius , where do you see a cobattant ribbon? This is a non-com EK2 on White ribbon with black stripes....ARRRR...my mistake. I beg your pardon. Monday and no coffee yet.
ixhs Posted July 6, 2015 Author Posted July 6, 2015 Does anyone of you have the rolls of the Friedrich Franz Kreuz of Mecklenburg?I have another bar to ID
HeikoGrusdat Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Don't have the rolls but please open a new thread and show us the bar
ixhs Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Here we have it. The Wilhelmskreuz is the version with "Für Kriegsverdienst".So i think not a civilian. It also could be a higher rank, because all the medalsare given "ohne Rücksicht auf Rang und Stellung".What do we know about him? No centenar 1897 no LSM/LSC so a younger guy., seems that hewas prussian or bavarian (pos. 3 bavarian medal) He was not a member of the War department, because the WK is a version without swords. I think he was still alive in 1935. Edited July 7, 2015 by ixhs
Wild Card Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Greetings ixhs, Back to your Henry the Lion knight 2nd class for a moment. If it is of any help, your badge is pre Jürgens which means that it was produced prior to the change of order jeweler/supplier from Siebrecht in April of 1912. It could, of course, be a recycled piece; but personally I feel that this unlikely. Regards, Wild Card
ixhs Posted July 8, 2015 Author Posted July 8, 2015 Thanks for your help. But i still think, we can`t ID him.
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