Ribbon Bar research help, Tyrol Campaign

[Paul C]

I have been trying to put a name to the below bar for many years. The bar has:

1914 EK2 w/1939 Spange, BMV4x, FEK, Tyrol Campaign, TR 12 25 and 12

I believe it goes to a Bayern officer who stayed in between the war. The list below has the officer from Bayern who were in the Reichheer in 1923 and had only and EK and BMV4x. Their 1914 unit is listed. Can anyone tell me if the units were involved in the Tyrol Campaign? Thanks.

Name	Rang	1923	1914	1924 Orden
Bader, Robert	Lt.	19. Inf. R.	b. 2. IR	EK2 BM4mSchw
Borst, Otto	Lt.	21. Inf. R.	b. 5. IR	EK2 BM4mSchw
Gebert, Johann	Oblt.	7. San. A.	b. 2. TrA	EK2 BM4mSchw
Götz, Hermann	Hptm.	HFK, VerbSt. München	b. 23. IR	EK2 BM4mSchw
Halder, Eugen	Lt.	7. Nachr. A.	b. 2. Tel. B.	EK2 BM4mSchw
Herold, Walter	Lt.	7. Art. R., b. St.	b. 8. FAR	EK2 BM4mSchw
Höfle, Hermann	Lt.	19. Inf. R.	b. 8. IR	EK2 BM4mSchw
Hübner, Dietrich	Oblt.	17. Reit. R.	b. 2. Schw. RR	EK2 BM4mSchw
Kreppel, Hans	Lt.	7. Art. R.	b. 1. FußAR	EK2 BM4mSchw
Löweneck, Ludwig	Hptm.	Rw Min. (In 6)	b. Eisenb. B.	EK2 BM4mSchw
Preu,	Lt.	20. Inf. R.	b. 21. IR	EK2 BM4mSchw
Schmitt, Arthur	Oblt.	20. Inf. R.	b. 9. IR	EK2 BM4mSchw
Waldenfels, Rudolf Frhr. von	Lt.	17. Reit. R.	b. 6. Chev. R.	EK2 BM4mSchw
Winter, August	Lt.	7. Nachr. A.	b. 2. Tel. B.	EK2 BM4mSchw

[ixhs]

I think with that combination the bar is not to ID.

 

 

[Paul C]

You maybe correct but I like to try. I would like to see all of August Winter's WWI assignments as he may have been in the mountain troops because he was a WWII Gen. der Geb.

[padro]

Here is August Winters war record, it would appear he served in Macedonia and Serbia, where he contracted Malaria, but not the Tirol.

When I have more time next week I will try and download the records of the other guys on your list for you.

The other thing to mention though is that the second medal may not be a MVO4 but an MVK2.

Best regards

Pete

 

[Dave Danner]

No Tirol Landesdenkmünze is listed in Winter's HPA file. The following can also be eliminated based on other awards:

• Bader - WHDA2, Anschluß; no Tirol Landesdenkmünze listed
• Borst - WHDA2; no Tirol Landesdenkmünze listed
• Gebert - had KVK2X, did not have SpEK2; no Tirol Landesdenkmünze listed
• Halder - not in Tirol, according to his mitgemachte Gefechte
• Hübner - KVK2X, Anschluß; no Tirol Landesdenkmünze listed
• Kreppel - retired 30.4.24, returned to active duty 1.6.34; WHDA4, UKEM
• Preu - Ost, WHDA2
• Schmitt - BLM3.J, SchlesA1&2

I have nothing on the following:

• Götz - no file in the Archives
• Herold - no file in the Archives
• Höfle - no file in the Archives
• Löweneck - no file in the Archives
• Waldenfels - file not reviewed yet

Also bear in mind that the WHDA1 may also reflect police service, or civil servant time in a qualifying military role (Angestellter in Reichsdienst gem. § 56 W.V.G.).

Dave

[Paul C]

Dave, Padro, thank you very much. Down to a possible five. Additional info:

Walter Herold - GM and RK holder WWII

Ludwig Löweneck - GM WWII

Rudolf v. Waldenfels - GL RKE