The "dude"....

[Chris Boonzaier]

Pretty cool collection right there on his chest..... He is with the REP GCP

[Von Thronstahl]

That is Cross for Military Valour?  What does it means whet it has palm on the ribbon?

[Chris Boonzaier]

Just now, Von Thronstahl said:

That is Cross for Military Valour?  What does it means whet it has palm on the ribbon?

Hi,

He was cited at Army level.

Best

Chris

[Von Thronstahl]

1 minute ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

Hi,

He was cited at Army level.

Best

Chris

Thank you Chris.  One more question. Does it mean that all members of the unit then get the cross or only guys who already got cross now also get palm on the ribbon. 

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi, the cross is always an individual award, not a unit award. The highest level is the palms, then Gold star, silver star and Bronze star.

[Gunner 1]

Chris Boonzaier wrote: "The cross is always an individual award, not a unit award"

According to my sources since 2011 the Cross for Military Valor may be awarded to French and foreign military units. Two awards with palm to the same unit allows members of the unit to wear a fourragére.

 

[gjw]

Hi all, interesting that he has an American Army CIB.  

Also, Chris, what is the badge he has with the crossed swords on a wreath?  Always curious about this badge.

Thanks so much!

Greg

 

 

[Chris Boonzaier]

18 hours ago, Gunner 1 said:

Chris Boonzaier wrote: "The cross is always an individual award, not a unit award"

According to my sources since 2011 the Cross for Military Valor may be awarded to French and foreign military units. Two awards with palm to the same unit allows members of the unit to wear a fourragére.

 

Hi, sorry, I explained wrong. The award can be given to a unit, but that does not mean the individual soldier gets the cross... The individual soldier only gets the cross on his medal bar when he has a personal citation. If it is a unit award the colors of the unit get it, and the guys serving in the unit get the Fourragere once the unit has gained the right.

3 hours ago, gjw said:

Hi all, interesting that he has an American Army CIB.  

Also, Chris, what is the badge he has with the crossed swords on a wreath?  Always curious about this badge.

Thanks so much!

Greg

 

 

Hi, there are Bronze, silver and gold. BMPE, BMP1, BMP2... Usually the rule of thump is a Cpl gets the Bronze about 6 months after his Cpl course. The Silver is for a Sgt or Chief Cpl who is qualified to carry out a Sgt or squad leader duties and the Gold for higher NCOs qualified as Platoon leaders. The official regulations are probably different, but that is more or less how it is in an Infantry company.

[Paul R]

Regarding the CIB, could the soldier have previously served in the US Army and is wearing it as a carry over from prior service?  What are the FFL rules on the wear of previously awarded decorations while serving with other military branches/countries outside of FFL service?  The CIB (combat version) cannot be awarded to foreigners, at least that I am award of. 

 Cross for Military Valour with Palm-  What is the US equivalent?  Silver Star?  Congressional Medal of Honor?

[Chris Boonzaier]

HI,

The CIB can be awarded to foreigners attached to the US if I am not mistaken. In the FFL you cannot wear stuff awarded before you joined the legion, unless it was regular French army awards. If I remember right he was awarded the CIB for actions with the yanks in Afghanistan. Only a small number of them got it because they were directly involved with the US troops

[gjw]

10 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

Hi, sorry, I explained wrong. The award can be given to a unit, but that does not mean the individual soldier gets the cross... The individual soldier only gets the cross on his medal bar when he has a personal citation. If it is a unit award the colors of the unit get it, and the guys serving in the unit get the Fourragere once the unit has gained the right.

Hi, there are Bronze, silver and gold. BMPE, BMP1, BMP2... Usually the rule of thump is a Cpl gets the Bronze about 6 months after his Cpl course. The Silver is for a Sgt or Chief Cpl who is qualified to carry out a Sgt or squad leader duties and the Gold for higher NCOs qualified as Platoon leaders. The official regulations are probably different, but that is more or less how it is in an Infantry company.

Thanks Chris!  What does BMPE translate into English?

The CIB can be awarded to foreign personal attached to US Army units as Chris has stated.  The CIB has been awarded to foreign personal during the Korean War, Vietnam and the current war(s) ibn the Middle East.  Not a common award however.

Best,

Greg

 

 

Edited October 3, 2018 by gjw

[Chris Boonzaier]

Brevet military Professional Elementry, 1st and 2nd class

[gjw]

Thanks!

[aubagne98]

On ‎02‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 17:02, Paul R said:

 

 Cross for Military Valour with Palm-  What is the US equivalent?  Silver Star?  Congressional Medal of Honor?

It is the equivalent to the Croix de guerre (WW 1, WW 2, TOE) if they are in Action which are not declared as wars.

In Germany e.g. there was the Iron Cross during wars, now the German Bundeswehr soldiers get the https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehrenkreuz_der_Bundeswehr_für_Tapferkeit.

Because they are not Fighting in an declared war.

 

 

Here is sth about fourrageres, Maybe you understand German.

https://www.deutsche-gesellschaft-fuer-ordenskunde.de/DGOWP/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ausgabe78.pdf

On ‎01‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 21:43, Gunner 1 said:

 Two awards with palm to the same unit allows members of the unit to wear a fourragére.

 

They must be given in the same war.

The Regiment gets the award on its drapeau, later the fourragere.

https://www.defense.gouv.fr/actualites/communaute-defense/une-nouvelle-decoration-pour-le-drapeau-du-126e-ri

All memebers of the Regiment are allowed to wear it.

Edited June 30, 2019 by aubagne98