aussiesoldier Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Knowledgeable Colleagues. I have been pondering these two problems for a long while. 1. Are all Kingdom of Württemberg I OD89 engraved with the royal cipher of King Karl I? Did it eventually change in the C20th? 2. Is a old German Gothic inscription challenge. I can not find a German word that starts with these four letters in either archaic German dictionaries or a more modern dictionary. Part of the translation is reasonably easy (yes that's a bold statement). 'Ginj. Freiw.D.Nebelung' = Ginj. Free Volunteers of Nebelung (Forest?) If you are able to help, whta does the abbreviated term Ginj. stand for? I look forward with some hope to your responses. Thanks, George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Its an E iso a G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiesoldier Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 Makes sense = Einjährig-Freiwilliger (One-Year Volunteer Enlistee) I looked up traditional German Gothic and that is what a gothic 'G' was but an E !!!!!! Thanks. No ideas on the other problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Einjahriger Freiwilliger D Nebelung . King William II ascended to the Throne in 1891 the change of the Cypher must had follow the enthronement of the King but its not impossible that a good batch of Offiziers Degen M 89 continued to be supplied by the Manufacturers with the old cypher . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Hello again , I have just found in Militarische Antiquetaet Emig , site a 1889 OD offered for sale .they says Weyersberg and Co ,1915 Kammerstuck . and enlarging one pic you can see the monogramm or Cypher of King Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiesoldier Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 Thanks, that's what I thought. Both things could be true - a large number of a new style IOD89 made under King Karl and not enough sold to replace the monogram AND simply leaving the it that way. If you place a monogram on your weapons, why would it not reflect the current monarch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Thats the point . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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