Konteradmiral Carl Franz - Ottoman Awards

[Kriegsmarine Admiral]

1 - Order of Osmaniye 2nd Class 

2 - Order of the Medjidie 2nd Class 

3 - Is this an Ottoman Medal? Does anyone know what it is?

Thanks!

[demir]

No 3 looks like The Ottoman Order Of Talent awarded for “talent, science and skill”, or Life Saving Medal. Best wishes

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by demir

[Kriegsmarine Admiral]

9 minutes ago, demir said:

No 3 looks like The Ottoman Order Of Talent awarded for “talent, science and skill”, or Life Saving Medal. Best wishes

 

Thank you Demir. Because he's a military person, I think it's more likely to be the Life Saving Medal.

[avsaribar]

Yes , as Mr.Demir mentioned , it looks like a Life Saving Medal with a dark green ribbon ...

[avsaribar]

Just a correction on the photo ;

 

(1) marked Breast Star  is an Osmanie as mentioned . But (1) marked Osmanie Badge is Not an Osmanie Badge , it is an Medjidie Badge . Btw , can not guarantee without measuring but i think that set is a Grand Cross set of Osmanie  ..

 

(2) marked Breast Star is Medjidie , it is right but (2) marked badge is the Osmanie's badge , not Medjidie ...

 

So there was criss-cross mistake ...  

: )

 

Avsar

 

 

[Kriegsmarine Admiral]

1 hour ago, avsaribar said:

Just a correction on the photo ;

 

(1) marked Breast Star  is an Osmanie as mentioned . But (1) marked Osmanie Badge is Not an Osmanie Badge , it is an Medjidie Badge . Btw , can not guarantee without measuring but i think that set is a Grand Cross set of Osmanie  ..

 

(2) marked Breast Star is Medjidie , it is right but (2) marked badge is the Osmanie's badge , not Medjidie ...

 

So there was criss-cross mistake ...  

: )

 

Avsar

 

 

Thank you Avsar! Yes, now I see that I marked them wrongly.

So, you think the Osmaniye Set is 1st Class (Grand Cross) and the Medjidie Set is 2nd Class, correct?

I still think the Osmaniye Set is 2nd Class, because I have information that he was awarded this order on 6 April 1904, when he was still a Kapitan zur See. This rank is too low for him to be awarded the Grand Cross.

Edited October 9, 2021 by Kriegsmarine Admiral

[avsaribar]

I worked with the pictures , photo shoots and scans of the Osmanies and Medjidies a lot when i was publishing my book and from my experiences my eyes told me that the proportions of the Osmanie Breast Star in the pictures seems to be a Grand Cross Breast Star... But again i would like to mention here that we can not say definitely without measuring the diameter of the Breast Star unless it is a Diamond one ... ( All Diamond Medjidies and Osmanies are Grand Crosses no matter their sizes .. )

 

Avsar Ibar