Gensui Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Gents, This (probably) cap tally is puzzling me. Can anyone give me a translation (and confirmation, if it's really Chinese not Taiwanese)? Thanks and best regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Looks pretty terrible for a cap tally. Even for a modern one. Meinst du nicht Chris? 徳國水兵膠州 徳國 - German 水兵 - Sailor 膠州 - Jiaozhou https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiaozhou_Bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gensui Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 Now with this transcription I can see the kanji, thanks a lot mate! Maybe some Chinese sailors under German command? Such as Hilfsseeleute (compare to the Chinese Leasehold Police under German command)? I know this tally from a picture, but can‘t find it... BR, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 43 minutes ago, Gensui said: Maybe some Chinese sailors under German command? Such as Hilfsseeleute (compare to the Chinese Leasehold Police under German command)? If he was under German command then why tally is in chinese? And this handwriting is simply terrible ... Me and my friend from SMS Gneisenau are having doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gensui Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 Maybe for the locals? Or maybe a Chinese ship, serving for the German Gouvernment? I agree with you, the writting looks terrible. But by own experience, I would say, this was written by a Chinese (not European, Chinese speaking/writting guy). My Japanese handwritting will be easily identified as "non-Japanese writter". I found attached picture (courtesy of Chris Dale, http://www.germancolonialuniforms.co.uk/). Looks terrible as well, isn't it? BR, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 This one looks perfectly ok to me unlike "tally" in the first post. 3 hours ago, Gensui said: I found attached picture (courtesy of Chris Dale, http://www.germancolonialuniforms.co.uk/). Looks terrible as well, isn't it? You've got to be kidding me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) Regarding "Die chinesische Polizei" in Jiaozhou http://www.traditionsverband.de/magazin/polizeiuniform.html Edited December 4, 2020 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gensui Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Thanks Nick! Fortunately, I got in touch with the Great-grandniece of this previous “owner”. According to her, her Great-granduncle was commanded on board of the SMS Prinzeß Wilhelm in China. Before he returned to Germany, he arranged some sweetheart tallies. His diary mentioned, that he asked his Chinese “Mafu” to “create” this tally. Later back in Germany, he bought a “Reservistenpaddel” (English?) and tied this tally to several others. Unfortunately, the “Paddel” was sold a couple of years ago and the former buyer untied this Chinese written tally. BR, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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