Uniform identification

[Macashton]

Can anybody identify the military uniforms the two gentlemen are wearing in the attached photos.

The photos date from the early 1900s I guess.

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

[QSAMIKE]

The first picture is WW2 or Pre-WW2 Italian, the second with no identification badges I am not sure.....

 

Mike

[Alex K]

The 2nd picture seems to show a ww1 or pre ww1 british officers uniform, rank pips are on the arm cuffs, there are no unit insignia on the collar lapels, though so unit identification cant be determined, it seems to be a rather long tunic?

Edited October 28, 2021 by Alex K

[Macashton]

I should have said, the suited gentleman in Photo 1 was born vin 1873 and is an older version of the officer in Photo 2.  Photo 1 likely to have been taken during 1930s, ie just pre WW2.

[Bayern]

Hello, the man with uniform on the first pic is a Italian Officer . the great bursting grenade on his cap and the double pointed fiamma on his collar says a Bersagliere ( Light Infantry  ) the rank ? the lace on the cap band and what is visible on the cuff suggests a Lt Colonel or Full Colonel. the model of the tunic is the M1934 . The man on the second pic wears what looks as a British Army tunic with rank badges on the cuffs (pre WW1 or WW1 ) the two stripes and three pips of a Captain . the buttons are not plain but is hard to say inclusive with magnification which badge is on relief over the buttons, the lenght of the tunic is unusual and is evident that was tailored for a taller and thicker man that the one wearing it

[Macashton]

Thanks for that comment.  

I seems a bit odd though.  Historically, would the British have been supporting the Italians pre WW2  ? 

 

[15THPACAV]

On 17/11/2021 at 16:06, Macashton said:

Thanks for that comment.  

I seems a bit odd though.  Historically, would the British have been supporting the Italians pre WW2  ? 

 

Italy was an ally of Great Britain in WWI & a British Army Corps was sent to Italy in late 1917, I believe, to help stabilize the situation after the disaster of Caporetto.

Perhaps these two gentlemen served together.

[paddywhack]

When I zoom in on the captain's buttons they look like elephants on them, could it be the Duke of Wellington regiment (west riding regiment)

[v.Perlet]

The photo looks according to the civilian dress and the Italians uniform to be from the 30's. Any idea as to where the photo was taken?

 

In that period the British were rubbing shoulders with Mussolini - so could this photo been taken in view of discussions held between the two parties right up to Chamberlain signing the Munich agreement (incl. Italy) in 1938 and his visit to Rome in 1939

see:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40107260

Count Dino Grandi was named ambassador to Great Britain (July 1932) and concluded an Anglo-Italian agreement (1938) before being recalled to Italy.

 

Regards

v.Perlet

Edited January 24, 2022 by v.Perlet

[Bayern]

Gentlemen, Italy was allied with Great Britain in WW1 and a British Army Corps served in Italy against the Austrians under the Earl of Cavan .after the War Italy remained in good terms with Great Britain , by other way many  British choosed Italy as place of retirement or holiday including probably ex Servicemen . Dino Grandi count Mordano was a ex Italian officer in WW1 (Alpino ) and a fascist & Diplomatic . he was Anglophile 

[Macashton]

Re post on 24th January.  The wording on the back of the photo is , 'Fot, Alessio, C.Vitt, Em. N. 12, Pavia.

Photo appears to have been taken 1937-38.