Help for identification of a general.

[03fahnen]

Good morning gentlemen,
I ask for your help in identifying this general.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Glenn J]

I would think Generalleutnant Albert Schöpflin.

 

Regards

Glenn

[Dave Danner]

Agreed.

[Deutschritter]

Sadly, another General which the internet has forgotten ... one can find hardly more than the name.

[03fahnen]

As always thank you very much.

[03fahnen]

Glenn confirmed, This is Generalleutnant Albert Schöpflin. Only you are able to see what we had in front of our noses.

 

 

 

 

[03fahnen]

Through the "Rang-Listen" I have been able to see a little the evolution of his military cart.

 

Rang-Liste 1886 P.Leutnant

 

 

 

Rang-Liste 1893 Hptm.

 

 

 

Rang-Liste 1900 Major

 

 

 

Rang-Liste 1902 Oberstlt

 

 

 

Rang-Liste 1904 Oberst

 

 

 

Rang-Liste 1910 Gen.Maj.

 

 

And finally in the book "Verzeichnis der Mitglieder der Offiziervereinigung des 8. Württ. Inf. Regi. No. 126 Großherzog Friedrich von Baden"  you can see the last degree achieved: General der Infanterie

 

 

 

[Deutschritter]

This is great, thank you. I read, he led the 45. Reserve-Division (Sächsische) until 1917?! Surely EK II and I ... probably also Kronenorden (PKO1)? In your nice picture, he seems to be standing in front of his Gutshaus ... do you know where?

Edited November 7, 2021 by Deutschritter

[Dave Danner]

4 hours ago, Deutschritter said:

This is great, thank you. I read, he led the 45. Reserve-Division (Sächsische) until 1917?! Surely EK II and I ... probably also Kronenorden (PKO1)? In your nice picture, he seems to be standing in front of his Gutshaus ... do you know where?

 

The 45. Reserve-Division was not Saxon. It was originally recruited in Pommern, Westpreußen and from the Hanseatic Cities of Hamburg and Bremen.

 

Albert Schöpflin (27.10.1853-14.12.1934) received the KO1 when he retired in 1913. He received the Swords to the KO1 in 1916. Among other war decorations, he also received the Hanseatenkreuze of Hamburg and Bremen.

 

Perhaps his most significant distinction, at least from our perspective on this forum, is that he received the silberne Militär-Karl-Friedrich-Verdienstmedaille on 15.2.1871 as a Musketier in the 4. badisches Infanterie-Regiment and the Kommandeurkreuz mit Stern of the Militär-Karl-Friedrich-Verdienstorden on 31.7.1915 as Generalleutnant z.D. and commander of the 45. Reserve-Division. If I remember correctly, he and Lt.d.R. Hermann Pfeifer are the only recipients of the officer and enlisted versions of Baden's highest military honor (Pfeifer received the silver medal in 1916 as a Vfw. in Fokkerstaffel AOK3 and the knight's cross in 1917 as a Lt.d.R. in Jasta 9).

 

He is also my (very distant) cousin.

[Glenn J]

General Schöpflin's career is detailed in various Offizier-Stammlisten, this from Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 53, He retired from pre-war active service effective 17 February 1913 from his position as the commander of 33. Division. His residence in Metz was at Ponceletstrasse 13 (13 Rue Poncelet). The photo dates after his 15 May 1912 award of the star to his Red Eagle Order 2nd class with oak leaves.

 

Regards

Glenn

 

 

[03fahnen]

 

 

Again, thank you very much Glenn, fantastic

 

Thanks Dave Danner for your clarifications.

[Deutschritter]

Gentlemen, unbelievable, thanks so much! So he did take part in the war of 1870/71?! Not even Deutscher Ordens-Alamanch (1908) had that. I read here 45. Reserve-Division (Sächsische), now I see, they got it wrong. Glenn, have you ever NOT found something? ?

 

[Dave Danner]

For the KDM, his regiment was entitled to the Spangen "AN DER LISAINE" and "STRASSBURG".

 

For the Baden Felddienst-Auszeichnung, the Spange would be "1870-1871".

[Deutschritter]

Thanks, Dave! Do you have any promotion dates for Generalleutnant and General der Infanterie? Oh, I just found Generalleutnant: 27 January 1911

Edited November 7, 2021 by Deutschritter

[Dave Danner]

27.01.1916 Charakter als General der Infanterie z.D.

[Deutschritter]

So, finished, if I am missing anything, please let me know!

 

Silberne Militär-Karl-Friedrich-Verdienstmedaille (BsM) am 15. Februar 1871 als a Musketier im Großherzoglich Badischen 4. Infanterie-Regiment „Prinz Wilhelm“

Großherzoglich Badische Felddienst-Auszeichnung mit der Spange „1870–1871“

Kaiserliche Kriegsdenkmünze 1870/71 mi den Gefechtsspangen „Schlacht an der Lisaine“ und „Belagerung von Straßburg“

Roter Adlerorden, IV. Klasse

Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz

Schwertorden, Ritterkreuz I. Klasse (SS4a)

... später als SS3a klassifiziert

Orden vom Zähringer Löwen, Ritterkreuz I. Klasse (BZL3a/BZ3a)

Zentenarmedaille, 1897

Orden der Württembergischen Krone, Ritterkreuz (WK3)

Preußischer Kronenorden, III. Klasse

Eichenlaub zum Ritterkreuz I. Klasse des Ordens vom Zähringer Löwen (BZ3a.mE)

Roter Adlerorden, III. Klasse mit der Schleife

Orden vom Zähringer Löwen, Kommandeur II. Klasse (BZ2b)

Preußischer Kronenorden, II. Klasse

Roter Adlerorden, II. Klasse mit Eichenlaub

Orden vom Zähringer Löwen, Kommandeur I. Klasse (BZ2a)

Stern zum Preußischen Kronenorden II. Klasse

Stern zum Roten Adlerorden II. Klasse mit Eichenlaub am 15. Mai 1912

Preußischer Kronenorden, I. Klasse, zum Abschied 1913

Eisernes Kreuz (1914), II. und I. Klasse

Militär-Karl-Friedrich-Verdienstorden, Kommandeurkreuz mit Stern am 31. Juli 1915 als Generalleutnant z. D. und Kommandeur der 45. Reserve-Division

Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz

Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz

Schwerter zum Preußischen Kronenorden I. Klasse, 1916

Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer

[Dave Danner]

Prussian awards:

 

• The KO1 was awarded on 17.2.1913, the X dazu on 25.11.1916

• 14EK2 on 22.10.1914
• 14EK1 on 15.11.1914
• Dienstauszeichnungskreuz in 1894

 

Other Baden awards:

 

• Ghzgl. Badischer Orden vom Zähringer Löwen, Großkreuz (BZ1) am 21.2.1913
• Ghzgl. Badische Regierungsjubiläumsmedaille am 23.04.1902
• Ghzgl. Badische Erinnerungsmedaille zur goldenen Hochzeit am 17.11.1906

 

Other awards:

 

• Kgl. Bayerischer Militär-Verdienstorden 1. Klasse (BMV1) am 26.5.1913

 

Other dates for awards you already have:

 

• SS3a - Erlaubnis zur Annahme am 21.4.1894
• WK3 - Erlaubnis zur Annahme am 18.4.1900

 

He assumed command of the 45. Reserve-Division on 10. September 1914. His Mobilmachungsbestimmung was lifted on 21. März 1917.

[Deutschritter]

Phanastic, thank you!

[Deutschritter]

On 07/11/2021 at 08:43, Glenn J said:

General Schöpflin's career [...]

 

Regards

Glenn

 

Dear Glenn, do you possibly have a picture of Gustav von Oertzen in your vast collection? Thanks! I tried to message you, but that didn't work.

https://gmic.co.uk/topic/78735-oertzen-gustav-von/#comment-706747

 

 

 

[Glenn J]

Sorry Andreas,

 

I do not have him. Someone to look out for!

 

Regards

Glenn

 

 

[JohanH]

Here is his entry in the roll of the Swedish order of the Sword.