kriegsverdienstkreuz 1915 manufacturers

[LuckySlevin]

Hi Gentlemen, 

 

Could you please help me with the manufacturers of the kriegsverdienstkreuz 1915. 

 

So far I could find 3 design looking at pictures available online but only 2 came mentioning the manufacturers: 

 

Schneider company in Leipzig sometimes coming with a S and I guess the most beautiful examples: 

 

Then I saw some examples which have almost the same design but manufactured by CE Kunath in Dresden but seem to be of worse quality:

 

Finally, a design for which I found only 2 examples on the web : 

(this one taken from a bar which is currently on auction from zeige)

 

and a closer comparison of details: 

We can clearly see differences in the portrait, letters size in the center, 1915.

 

Does anybody know who is the manufacturer of the third type or have crosses with this design ?

This one is quite different from the first 2 producers who have almost identical designs in details.  

 

Thank you a lot for your help. 

 

Kind regards, 

Lucky

 

 

[Deruelle]

Hi,

 

Schneider is the Jeweler who made the most part of this cross. I can't find someone else in the books who realize them. Kunath realize boxes for Saxon orders.

 

Christophe

[VtwinVince]

You need to be very careful with these, as they have been heavily faked.

[LuckySlevin]

@Deruelle thank you a lot for that info. It makes sense given that first 4 crosses shown have all same design. 

I guess then, given also @VtwinVince statement, the last 2 examples I showed should be fakes as the design is clearly different from Schneider crosses. 

 

Thank you both a lot! 

@VtwinVince

do you have some other examples of fakes or what to take attention to ? 

 

Kind regards, 

Lucky

 

[graham]

Great info. I purchased mine a few years ago, it looks like it may not make the grade, comments welcome:

 

 

[LuckySlevin]

If I am not mistaken, your cross looks more like the last ones I posted which have slightly different design from the ones produced by Schneider. 

 

If anyone has any info on other producers of those crosses, It would be nice to know it. 

[graham]

LuckySlevin, agreed.

 

Simius Rex, thanks for the feedback much appreciated. 

[LuckySlevin]

Thank you a lot Siumius Rex for such a detailed explanation ! 

 

 

Edited May 20, 2022 by LuckySlevin