Ehrenkreuz der 2. Klasse des Landeskriegerverbandes & Kameradschaftsbund

[Marcus66]

Hello All,

 

Can anyone provide information about these two medals.  Are they post WW1, post WW2?  Are they reproductions?

 

Thanks

 

M.

 

 

 

 

[VtwinVince]

It's a Weimar award for vets from Oldenburg, and fairly scarce. I have one which I'll have to dig out for comparison.

[91-old-inf-reg]

I hate to one to correct but, although yes this award was first awarded in the Weimar Republic by the Oldenburg War veterans association, this is the post WWII version of the award. 
 

Here are some examples of the Weimar era version of the award. The first example is from my own collection, the others are examples that were sold at auction:

 

 

 

here are some post war examples that the first example coming from my own collection and the second one from an individual on the Feldgrau forum:

 

 

 

Best regards,

Dan

Edited October 5, 2022 by 91-old-inf-reg

[VtwinVince]

D'oh! Thanks for the correction, Dan.

[Marcus66]

16 hours ago, 91-old-inf-reg said:

I hate to one to correct but, although yes this award was first awarded in the Weimar Republic by the Oldenburg War veterans association, this is the post WWII version of the award. 

So if this is post WW2, I am assuming that this may be a 1957 award?  Are these two particular medals (Kriegerbund & Kameradbund) still awarded today?  I see online through various dealers in Germany that these two particular medals may be unintentionally represented as Weimar era medals and this seems to be accepted (albeit unintentionally) by those not familiar with the true Weimar produced awards.  I have seen numerous of these two particular medals for sale recently, both through dealer websites and fleabay.

 

M.

[91-old-inf-reg]

Marcus,

If my memory serves me right, the Kamerader bund is a later award, closer to the 1970s, but I could be wrong. 
they are both post 1957 awards, after about 1934 when Hitler came to power, all of these “unofficial awards” stopped being awarded. 

Yes, these awards are most definitely still awarded today.

 

I know where some Weimar era versions of the cross are for sale, but unless you are able to find one at an auction or buy one for a cheap price on fleabay, they’re selling them for quite an expensive price. 
 

Here’s a couple of things that may be of interest to you if you appreciate Oldenburg veteran awards like myself:

 

Here is an example of the original Oldenburg veterans crosses and membership badges, all from my own collection:

 

 

Version for flags:

 

 

Membership badges:

 

best regards,

Dan

[speedytop]

Hi Marcus,

 

"So if this is post WW2, I am assuming that this may be a 1957 award?"

 

This has absolutely nothing to do with the German law from 1957 and the 1957er decorations (1957 award).

1957er decorations are allowed decorations of the Third Reich in a changed design, based on the law from 1957.

 

The name of the Oldenburger organization changed in the 60s from "Oldenburger Kriegerbund e.V." to "Oldenburger Kameradenbund e.V.". And yes, the badges and crosses with the inscription "Kameradenbund" are still awarded today.

 

1873 Oldenburger Kriegerbund

~1900 Oldenburger Landeskriegerverband

? Oldenburger Kriegerbund e.V.

60s Oldenburger Kameradenbund e.V.

 

Uwe

[Marcus66]

Thank you Dan and Uwe for the clarifications on this award.  I have been intrigued by it and the first two photos I posted are both awards in my collection.  Dan if you could point me in the right direction to finding the Weimar era productions of this award it would be appreciated (Also very nice collection you have there!).  It is unfortunate that this particular award (post WW2) are being mis-identified (either intentionally or unintentionally) on many European websites.  Leave it to the buyer to be educated prior to purchase!!  Again many thanks to all for your expertise and willingness to educate those of us who may not have access to the appropriate research resouces.!

 

Marcus

Edited October 7, 2022 by Marcus66

[91-old-inf-reg]

Marcus,

I appreciate the compliment! 
I am happy I could help in any way I could, especially when it comes to Oldenburg! 
 

Here’s the link to one of the only ones that I know of that is for sale currently.

like I said, it is quite expensive. 
I paid quite a large sum of money for mine as well due to the length of ribbon present.

 

Best regards,

Dan

 

 

[speedytop]

Hi,

 

I bought this (Oldenburger Kameradenbund) for 33 € a few months ago:

 

 

Uwe

[Marcus66]

15 hours ago, 91-old-inf-reg said:

Marcus,

I appreciate the compliment! 
I am happy I could help in any way I could, especially when it comes to Oldenburg! 
 

Here’s the link to one of the only ones that I know of that is for sale currently.

like I said, it is quite expensive. 
I paid quite a large sum of money for mine as well due to the length of ribbon present.

 

Best regards,

Dan

 

 

Thank you Dan,

 

Speaking of Oldenburg, I have a special relationship with it as my father and his family are originally from Oldenburg.  Thanks for the link to the medal.

 

Uwe, yes I have seen the Kameradbund medals quite often and just purchased mine for €35 a few weeks ago.  I am awaiting it to arrive which should be any day now.  Here is a pic of some of a couple of my favourite Oldenburg medals in my collection.  These a quite plain medals however I am struck by the historic attachment to the common soldier.  I am particularly fond of the Infantrie Rgt 91 commemorative medals.  Unfortunately the original ribbon on the 1813-1913 Commemorative disintegrated in my hand due to age so now I am seeking an original replacement ribbon  if it can even be found.

 

Marcus

 

 

[91-old-inf-reg]

Marcus,

And what a special connection that is! 
I wish you the best of luck in order to be able to find such a ribbon! 
 

Speaking of IR 91 commemorative medals, here’s another award I think I should share:

 

 

best regards,

Dan