Deutschritter Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Gentlemen, Rumey (in front of his Albatros D.Va) seems to be wearing two ribbons in his Knoploch. EK II and ...? Did the Golden Military Merit Cross have such a Band. Thanks! Edited October 3, 2023 by Deutschritter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjw Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Short answer yes. GMMC, was worn on the "war ribbon" same as the EK II. There is a picture of a pilot (can't remember his name) the wearing a crown device on the war ribbon, representing the GMMC in the 2d button hole. Best, Greg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Huxley Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, gjw said: Short answer yes. GMMC, was worn on the "war ribbon" same as the EK II. There is a picture of a pilot (can't remember his name) the wearing a crown device on the war ribbon, representing the GMMC in the 2d button hole. Best, Greg Greg, I think you will find that a crown on the war ribbon represented the HOH. Mike Edited October 3, 2023 by Mike Huxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjw Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mike Huxley said: Greg, I think you will find that a crown on the war ribbon represented the HOH. Mike Hey Mike, the crown device was just the crown, no Swords and the pilot was an NCO. The crown he wore on the ribbon was of course contrary to regulations and unofficial. Best, Greg Edited October 4, 2023 by gjw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Huxley Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, gjw said: Hey Mike, the crown device was just the crown, no Swords and the pilot was an NCO. The crown he wore on the ribbon was of course contrary to regulations and unofficial. Best, Greg Of course Greg, your right. If it had swords as well, then it would have been the HOH. However, Rumey also received the PLM on the 10 July 1918 as a then Leutnant and in fact was only 1 of 5 flyers that received both the PLM and the GMMK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 If he was wearing a war ribbon in the buttonhole, the MMC would supercede the EK and be worn with some sort of device, usually swords. In this photo it is clearly not a second war ribbon under the EK. Rumey was a Prussian who served in Jasta 5. Is there a connection between Jasta 5 and another principality? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Huxley Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, VtwinVince said: If he was wearing a war ribbon in the buttonhole, the MMC would supercede the EK and be worn with some sort of device, usually swords. In this photo it is clearly not a second war ribbon under the EK. Rumey was a Prussian who served in Jasta 5. Is there a connection between Jasta 5 and another principality? Rumey full list of awards are:- PLM GMMK EK1, EK2 Bavarian MVK 2 with swords and Pilots Badge. I suppose that ribbon under the war ribbon could have been for the MVK2, but that would be highly unusual. It would also help if we knew when that picture of him was taken as he didn't receive the GMMK until May 12 1918 in Jasta 5 Edited October 4, 2023 by Mike Huxley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, Mike Huxley said: Rumey full list of awards are:- PLM GMMK EK1, EK2 Bavarian MVK 2 with swords and Pilots Badge. Bavarian MVK 2 with swords? That is new to me and great news! Do you happen to know, if Josef Mai also received this award? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Huxley Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Josef Mai was nominated for the PLM, but never received it. His only other awards were:- GMMK EK1 & EK2 Pilots Badge Wound Badge (Black) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mike Huxley said: Josef Mai was nominated for the PLM, but never received it. His only other awards were:- GMMK EK1 & EK2 Pilots Badge Wound Badge (Black) Thanks, Mike ... and probably the Ehrenbecher?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Huxley Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Deutschritter said: Thanks, Mike ... and probably the Ehrenbecher?! Yes, as all did for their 1st kill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 Maybe one of you Gentlemen can help me out: I am looking for a picture of Alter Adler Egloff Max Freiherr von Freyberg-Eisenberg-Allmendingen in uniform. He was with the Fliegertruppe in WWI. What is so strange, the Reichswehr Ranglisten have neither an observer badge nor a pilots badge (Erinnerungsabzeichen) for him, although he was an Alter Adler. I would very much like to see one on his uniform. Thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted October 14, 2023 Author Share Posted October 14, 2023 On 05/10/2023 at 20:42, Deutschritter said: What is so strange, the Reichswehr Ranglisten have neither an observer badge nor a pilots badge (Erinnerungsabzeichen) for him, although he was an Alter Adler. I take that back, I finally found proof of his Aviator Commemorative Badge in the Reichswehr Rangliste of 1927, p. 134. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Huxley Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, Deutschritter said: I take that back, I finally found proof of his Aviator Commemorative Badge in the Reichswehr Rangliste of 1927, p. 134. Great research work. It goes to prove that is you dig deep into reference material that you can possible find the answers you are looking for. In fact I find this side of collecting the most rewarding. Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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