Stogieman Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I tend to doubt authenticity of almost everything I see on eBay but this one caught my eye. Is it possible that someone received both the Red Eagle and the General Honor Decoration from Prussia? Precedence seems correct on this bar? Not for me but thought it would make for a good discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 Here’s what I see: 1914 EK2 Hessian Bravery Medal Anhalt Friedrich Cross Red Eagle Crown Order General Decoration Long Service, maybe Officer’s 25 Centennial Medal 4 Turkish Awards Is it possible that this is researchable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 The Hesse-Darmstadt "Erinnerungsmedaille zur 1. Hochzeit 1894" has a similar ribbon, but I don't know if it's possible, because I don't know at what position you would wear it. https://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/deutsche-staaten/erinnerungsmedaille-zur-1-hochzeit-1894.html https://www.deutsche-gesellschaft-fuer-ordenskunde.de/DGOWP/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Verl_Liste_1894_Hoch_Medaille_1_Hochzeit_ADLER_.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I'd like to see the back of that one, and the box. I'm a sceptic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 Here’s the back, I know what you mean. Can anyone answer my original question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I see this guy is selling a big Austrian bar also in a box. Very weird seeing two like this at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 He also has a group of medal bars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Gaszewski Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 An interesting piece. Wish it was original - unfortunately it isn't 😟 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 There were six active officers in the 1914 Rangliste with a PAEz1 or 2. Not one survived the war. So, bars with a PAEz are certainly possible, but how likely? Name Rang Regt Gef Orden Dreßler, von Leutn. Reit. Feldjäger 30.07.1918 PAEz1 Lange, Leutn. PB 7 03.11.1914 PAEz2 Rheinbaben, Frhr. v. Leutn. 1. GRzF 14.09.1914 PKrO4 PAEz1 REKj3 Schulenburg, v. der Oblt. KR 1 12.08.1918 PAEz1 Thun, v. Oblt. GR 11 19.06.1915 PAEz1 ÖFJ4 Weber, Leutn. GPB 06.10.1914 PAEz1 There was an Oberlt. d.R. (Kür. R. 1) v. Rother who had PKrO4 PStJO PAEz2 and one Leutn. d. Landw. Inf. I (Landw. Bez. Breslau I) Panteleit who had D3 PAEz1 It is certainly possible an officer was called back to service for the war and could have had and received the awards. I can't speak to that, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Hi arb, I think, that it could have been a senior NCO from the Marine. I believe, that the green ribbon is the osman lifesaving medal. Regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 So bottom line consensus is it’s a copy/fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 Well, the bar has a bidder, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 So does the other one. I'm not convinced by these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 Final bid, $127.50. Oddly enough the Austrian bar went for $162. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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