David M Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Good morning I am looking for career and ODM on the officer mentioned, who commanded DR 6 in 1870/71 Much obliged! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) Hello David! Karl Friedrich Wilhelm Hugo v. Helmschwerdt (* 8.4.1823, + 19.1.01) He was commander of DR6 from 26.9.71-15.6.75 NOTE: His name was "v. Helmschwerdt", NOT "Rüppel v. Hemlmschwerdt". First he served in Kurhessen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electorate_of_Hesse Career in Kurhessen: 1839: Cadet 27.6.1843: Portepee-Fähnrich Regiment Garde du Corps 14.8.1843: Sec.Lt. 2.DR 20.8.1851: Pr.Lt. 1.Leib-HR 30.12.1855: Rittmeister and Esc.Chef, 1.Leib-HR In 1866, Kurhessen came to Prussia Prussian ranklist entries: 1866: Rittmeister, 2./HR13 1867: Major (Patent 17.1.67) 2./HR13 (DAK, service award-cross) 1868-1869: Major, Staff, DR10 1870-1871: Major, Staff DR10 (EKII, Iron Cross 2nd class)) 1872-1873: Oberstleutnant (Patent 18.1.72), commander DR6 (RAO4, Red Eagle Order, 4th class) 1874: Oberst (Patent 19.9.74), commander DR6 1875: retired Edited February 25 by The Prussian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 Hi! Thanks for your efforts! So his final prussian odm ROA4 DAK EK2 Could you provide the source you found the details about him? I would love to add these to his entry on my website later on. Maybe he dropped the former civilian part of his last name. His father however was ennobled with the additional predicate of v. H. in 1818. Anyway R.v.H. was the name our later colonel was born with in 1823. Thanks again David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Hi David! The Kurhessen sources came from the regimental history of Hus.Rgt.13: https://orka.bibliothek.uni-kassel.de/viewer/image/1674739754863/ The prussian sources came from the prussian ranklists. In the regimental history and in the ranklists he is mentioned as "v. Helmschwerdt", but in the regimental history are some other officers , named "Rüppel v. Helmschwerdt" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Regimental history: pages 683 and 684 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) A picture of him would be great, anyone. Thanks! Only RAO4? Could he have been the son of Generaladjutant Wilhelm Burghard Rüppel, later„von Helmschwerdt“? PS: What is funny, I found three Hessian sources (1, 2, 3), and the name is always spelled Helmschwerd without "t". Edited February 25 by Deutschritter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 13 hours ago, David M said: So his final prussian odm ROA4 DAK EK2 I would add: War Commemorative Medal of 1870–1871 (Kaiserliche Kriegsdenkmünze 1870/71; KD70/71) in Bronze Anniversary Oak Leaves (Jubiläums-Eichenlaub „25“ 1870/1895) to his Iron Cross (1870), 2nd Class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Here is his Iron Cross entry: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 4 hours ago, The Prussian said: Here is his Iron Cross entry: Thats a great addition! Is this from the ranklists as well? 12 hours ago, Deutschritter said: A picture of him would be great, anyone. Thanks! Only RAO4? Could he have been the son of Generaladjutant Wilhelm Burghard Rüppel, later„von Helmschwerdt“? PS: What is funny, I found three Hessian sources (1, 2, 3), and the name is always spelled Helmschwerd without "t". He was the son of the General. Although he was ennobled as R. v. Helmschwerdt, the t seem to have been dropped early on. Its not uncommon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 No. It's from the 70/71 Iron Cross receivers list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 Would you happen to have the bibliographical details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 You can read it here (download unfortuantely not possible) https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015049878856&view=1up&seq=5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 16 hours ago, The Prussian said: You can read it here (download unfortuantely not possible) https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015049878856&view=1up&seq=5 I managed to download the pictures and the plain text. But I cant merge it into a .pdf because these page dont use a proper format like hOCR. Anyway I merged the pictures into a pdf, but its not searchable. So I provide the _fulltext.txt file in which you can search, and find the page number to go to in the .pdf file or pictures folder Note that I did not inlude the first and last two pages because they are empty. pdf: https://rapidgator.net/file/e72e2e6381b851b3b6c5d991deacc0ee/pdf.zip.html pictures: https://rapidgator.net/file/ccfce5785eb7c4abd659f37a5df780d0/images.zip.html I saw there is plenty of intersting stuff on this side (Thanks for the link), and is pretty easy to dowload the pictures and text. Will look out for a solution to merge it proper. But, anyway I cant uploade directly here, because the files are to big. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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