Luftwaffe The Air to Ground Support Squadron Clasps

[François SAEZ]

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[François SAEZ]

Created the 12 April, 1944 (L.V.Bl., Ziff 578), the central device of the crossed swords denotes the award to Air to Ground Support Squadron flyers .... the "Schlachtflieger".

Edited May 17, 2005 by Fran?ois SAEZ

[Guest WAR LORD]

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Edited May 18, 2005 by WAR LORD

[Guest WAR LORD]

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[Gene]

Bronze Schlachtflieger, rarest of all grades including numbered-pendant gold examples. Front:

[Gene]

Reverse:

[Gene]

Closeup of the maker, RS&S

[François SAEZ]

Bronze Schlachtflieger, rarest of all grades including numbered-pendant gold examples. Front:

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EXACT!

[Wood]

Ground attack, gold, Osang. Obv.

[Wood]

rev.

[Wood]

silver, obv. Osang

[Wood]

rev. with a crude repair to the hinge.

[Wood]

Bronze, obv. R.S & S

[Wood]

rev.

[Wood]

And another late war gold with the maker mark L 56. with soldered on swords

Any comments on this?

Obv.

[Wood]

rev.

[Wood]

Maker mark L 56.

Regards,

Pete

[Peter J]

Hi Pete,

My knowledge in these is limited, but this one is new to me. Late war without any catch-plate, no integrated cross in the middle and solid swords, not correct in my book. Perhaps it's the same guys who produced this one, to my opinion equally bad.

KR

Peter

[deptfordboy]

Hi All,

Here's my maker-marked Osang in Bronze. Perhaps a silly question, but what is the logic behind the bronze being the rarest of these awards? I would have thought that more bronze would have been awarded than silver, gold etc?

Cheers

Gilbert

[deptfordboy]

And the reverse with maker's mark:

[luftguy]

Very nice examples of this award! I enjoyed viewing them.

Bill

[Peter J]

Hi Pete,

My knowledge in these is limited, but this one is new to me. Late war without any catch-plate, no integrated cross in the middle and solid swords, not correct in my book. Perhaps it's the same guys who produced this one, to my opinion equally bad.

KR

Peter

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Sorry, missed posting the image.

[François SAEZ]

Hi All,

Here's my maker-marked Osang in Bronze. Perhaps a silly question, but what is the logic behind the bronze being the rarest of these awards? I would have thought that more bronze would have been awarded than silver, gold etc?

Cheers

Gilbert

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Well, in post #2 it is said "Created the 12 April, 1944 (L.V.Bl., Ziff 578), the central device of the crossed swords denotes the award to Air to Ground Support Squadron flyers .... the "Schlachtflieger"

Most of the men qualifying for this clasp ALREADY had a clasp ( for bomber) in silver or gold and went for upgrade only, this why you will find more of those clasps in gold or with pendant than bronze ones.

To get a bronze one mainly means you join the schlachtflieger as a beginer after April 12 1944 while all the other pilots and crew kept at least the class they had before.

Not sure I am clear

[deptfordboy]

Thanks Francois,

Crystal clear thank you! All makes sense now, any idea of the numbers awarded in Bronze? As you say, given the date and the situation with regard to the air war, it's unlikely many new pilots would have survived long enough to receive this.

Cheers

Gilbert

[Peter J]

Maker mark L 56.

Regards,

Pete

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Gentlemen, I thought this was a discussion forum, where are all the LW buffs

KR

Peter