Chuck In Oregon Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 This is the personal jeton of Georgian Duke Ermile Nakashidze. He was a young officer in the Tsar's navy during the Russo-Japanese War. Later on he became an officer in the Black Sea Fleet. His study and passion was botany and upon leaving the navy he became a leading plant biologist in the Caucasus.The reverse is marked 84. There is no master's mark. The red enamel seems to be a particularly high quality transparent red, laid down over a pattern in the silver. The numbers are 1884 and 1909, so this was a 25-year commemorative of some sort, possibly a birthday gift.Enjoy.Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblinfarms Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 So this sort of Jeton was a personal item, personally "commissioned"? Would you have been allowed to wear this on a uniform? Did a large numebr of people have these done, or are they very rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCL Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) Nice piece,This jeton would have, more than likely, been privately issued. Worn on uniform or civil dress as a fob.Since it does not carry the imperial crown or anyother imperial insignia. Looks to be a dukes crown. It was not subject to offical issue.This could be a 25yrs of service jeton for botany..note the flowers within the laurel wreath.There are endless jetons in the Russian empire, it seems. I think I have seen the monogram, but just cant place it now.Great history with the piece as well.George Edited June 19, 2006 by georgecl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Chuck-- this is actually GERMAN--it is the Reuss (Younger Line) Jubilee Medal for the Silver Wedding of Prince Heinrich XXVII and Elise (n?e Princess of Hohenlohe-Langenburg).Royal participants in the festivities had a pinback version, other guests received this from a ribbon, while ladies had a brooch version with the red enamelled crown.I have NO clue about the markings, nor what the reverse looked like. I can't come up with a good photo of one, but perhaps if you post this in the Imperial German section, somebody can. Von Hessenthal and Schreiber did not give award numbers, but the last price guide (1999/2000) I had showed this at over 600 Euros (that would be with however the brooch was affixed).I have certainly seen several of the ribboned medal versions... in 40 years of catalog perusing... but cannot ever recall seeing a ladies' brooch version. If not dmeentedly rare, insanely rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCL Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Hi Rick,Well I guess thats why I cant find any reference on the piece in my Books.. I knew I saw it before, but could not figure where.ThanksGeorge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck In Oregon Posted June 19, 2006 Author Share Posted June 19, 2006 That's really interesting!!! I had, obviously, no clue. I was pretty confident of the provenance of the badge but I am surprised -- pleasantly so -- to learn the correct history. Ermile Nakashidze was a real guy and I (we) thought we had the story right. What a turnabout! Now I wonder how a Georgian family came to own it. We bought this from, literally, a little old lady who said it had been passed down in her family.The price is rather shocking, even without the brooch attached. And that was 6-7 years ago. Of course, we know that prices have been pretty flat since then. (They have?)Thanks for the very interesting correction and lesson. You have an amazing knowledge of phaleristics and awards. I guess I couldn't have gotten it much more wrong, but live and learn. It never did fit into any of my areas of interest -- it was an impulse purchase -- and now I guess I'll be even more motivated to sell it to someone else who lives and breathes German history. Know anyone like that?Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblinfarms Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 There is not enough money in the world to pay for the education you get when you read and participate in this Forum.My thanks and best wishes to all who lend their time and expertise to assisting relative "newbies" such as me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCL Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Hi chuckI could not fine a color pic but this is out of an old reference I have on German awards 1992.George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Yup, thar she iz! Thanks George!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck In Oregon Posted June 20, 2006 Author Share Posted June 20, 2006 And is that 500 Euros? In 1992? I guess this is eBay bound!Thank you both again for a very interesting lesson.Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCL Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Hi Chuck,That was in DM's still.But before the raise in Imp German prices..I think its a great deal more at this time? George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 (edited) Its probably 500 Euro now.Nice piece, Chuck Gerd Edited June 20, 2006 by Gerd Becker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCL Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Hi Chuck,Just because its not a Russian award, does not mean it did not belong to the Duke.Being from the Royal Georgian family he may have attended the jubilee.If you are going to get more items from him, you may want to keep in in the group..George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck In Oregon Posted June 21, 2006 Author Share Posted June 21, 2006 Hi Chuck,Just because its not a Russian award, does not mean it did not belong to the Duke.Being from the Royal Georgian family he may have attended the jubilee.If you are going to get more items from him, you may want to keep in in the group..George* * * * *Hi GeorgeYou know, that's a pretty good idea. I'll sound out my Georgian buddy about that before I try to sell this jeton. I didn't understand there to possibly be other items, but that has happened several times in the past. Just this last trip I picked up that port-cigar and screwback Red Banner that belonged to the NKVD general whose documents I have shared on the forum. I never expected that. You never know.Anyway, thanks for keeping me on track with this. I just bought a few more things a couple of weeks ago but I have to wait a while before I can take possession.Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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