Igor Ostapenko Posted April 13, 2006 Author Posted April 13, 2006 Nothing ? Military award ! Very rare and interesting !!! In the London Gazette we have only two recipients for WWI
MattGibbs Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 How many other montenegrin awards are they, is this the same one as gazetted?regardsMGibbs
Igor Ostapenko Posted April 13, 2006 Author Posted April 13, 2006 In the LG we can see many another montenegrin awards, but Obilich Medal - only once and BEFORE DANILO ORDER 1st class !
Igor Ostapenko Posted April 13, 2006 Author Posted April 13, 2006 Verden recive Montenegrin Obilich Bravery Medal !
Ed_Haynes Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 (edited) There were more than a few Serbian awards to Indians during WWI, and I wouldn't characterise them as rare (many more than the Belgian awards, for example, though fewer than the Russian ones).Excerpted from http://sagongs.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=242 ---Serbian awards to Indian forces in WWIOrden Beli Orao / Order of the White Eagle - 4th class with swords (the medal)Lieutenant-Colonel Kanwar Jeoraj Singh, Bikaner Camel Corps - AO 534 of 1917Regimentdar (Lt-Col) Chamray Urs, Mysore IS LancersColonel Nand Singh, Sardar Bahadur, Patiala IS Lancers - AO 534 of 1917Karajordjeva Zvezda / Order of Karageorge - 4th class with swords (the medal)Subadar Sultan, 1st KGO SappersSubadar-Major Gurmukh Singh, 36th SikhsMajor Ishar Singh, 2nd Patiala IS Infantry - AO 534 of 1917Orden Beli Orao / Order of the White Eagle - 5th class with swords (the medal)Subadar Daya Singh, 30th Mountain Battery - AO 534 of 1917Subadar Yakhudin, 1st KGO S&M - AO 534 of 1917Subadar Michael, Bahadur, 2nd QVO S&M - AO 534 of 1917Subadar Tika Khan, 58th Rifles - AO 534 of 1917Subadar-Major Bhim Singh Thala, IOM, 2/3rd GR - AO 534 of 1917Jemadar Naine Lama, 2/7th GR - AO 534 of 1917Major Pooran Singh, Alwar IS InfantryCaptain Krishna Rao Kanhoji Rao Dalvi, 4th Gwalior IS Infantry - AO 534 of 1917Ressadar Sheikh Hamid, 1st Hyderabad IS LancersJemadar Balagaly Puttayjuirs Krishne Urs, Mysore IS Lancers - AO 534 of 1917Karadjoedjeva Zvezda / Cross of Karageorge - 1st class with swords (the medal)2055 Lance Dafadar Khazan Singh, 4th Cavalry - AO 534 of 19173668 Dafadar Inder Singh, 7th Lancers - AO 534 of 1917764 Naik Sawan Singh, 1st KGO S&M - AO 534 of 19172760 Havildar Krishnasami, 2nd QVO S&M - AO 534 of 19173167 Havildar Chandar Singh, 3rd S&M - AO 534 of 19172688 Havildar Ujala, 6th Light Infantry - AO 534 of 1917927 Naik Nand Singh, 12th Pioneers - AO 534 of 19174584 Havildar Teja Singh, 1/23 Pioneers - AO 534 of 19171740 Havildar Mangal Singh, 34th Pioneers - AO 534 of 19174439 Sepoy Atma Singh, 36th Sikhs - AO 534 of 191729 Havildar Piaroo, 1/67th Punjabis - AO 534 of 19171443 Sepot (L/Nk) Kesar Singh, 82nd Punjabis - AO 534 of 19171282 Havildar Sobha Singh, 90th Punjabis - AO 534 of 19172461 Havildar Sawal Ram, 102nd Grenadiers - AO 534 of 19171813 Havildar Lal Bahadur Gurung, 2/3rd GR - AO 534 of 1917798 1st Class Sub-Assistant Surgeon Rawail Singh, ISMD (attd. Sikhs) - AO 534 of 19171706 Havildar Onkar, Alwar IS Infantry1293 Havildar Raghunath Rao, 4th Gwalior IS Infantry - AO 534 of 1917443 Daffadar-Major Heroj Kesaikar, Mysore IS Lancers - AO 534 of 1917389 Havildar Qaim Uddin, 2nd Patiala IS InfantryKaradjoedjeva Zvezda / Cross of Karageorge - 2nd class with swords (the medal)1390 Dafadar Gujar Singh, 16th Cavalry - AO 534 of 19171539 Naik Sundar Singh, 12th Pioneers - AO 534 of 19173810 Havildar Jiwan Singh, 28th Punjabis - AO 534 of 1917, group shown below3937 Havildar Ralli Ram, 30th Punjabis - AO 534 of 19171911 Naik Shankar, 37th Dogras - AO 534 of 1917354 Havildar Dewa Singh, 47th Sikhs - AO 534 of 19171623 Havildar Awal Khan, 51st Sikhs - AO 534 of 19173722 Naik Redi Gul, 58th Rifles - AO 534 of 1917558 Havildar Mahel Singh, 62nd Punjabis - AO 534 of 1917906 Havildar Ali Shafar, 106th Pioneers - AO 534 of 19172295 Naik Dal Singh Thapa, 1/1st GR - AO 534 of 19173030 Havildar Atibal Gurung, 1/2nd GR - AO 534 of 19171036 Lance/Naik Narsing Ale, 2/6th GR - AO 534 of 191795 Havildar Basant Singh, Maler Kotla IS Sappers - AO 534 of 19171092 Sowar Karsan Singh, Mysore IS LancersMedalja za hrabrosh / Medal for Bravery ("Obilich Medal") - gold (the medal)3684 Dafadar Ghenda Singh, 7th Lancers731 Lance/Dafadar Nijabat Ali Khan, 12th Cavalry325 Sepoy Ghafoor Mahomed, Aden Troop209 Driver Lance/Naik Bagh Singh, 21st Mountain Battery779 Gunner Muhammad Khan, 21st Mountain Battery1179 Lance/Naik Mehtab Singh, 1st KGO S&M1813 Sapper Virrasami, 2nd QVO S&M2626 Sapper Narainasami, 2nd QVO S&M3116 Sapper Pochatti Lakshiman, 3rd S&M127 Sapper Rangaya, Divisional Signal Company3106 Bugler Bhup Singh, 6th Light Infantry2375 Sepoy Harnam, 6th Light Infantry3194 Sepoy Umed Khan, 1/9th Infantry1397 Sepoy Mansa Singh, 12th Pioneers2648 Temp. Naik Kala Singh, 14th Sikhs4119 Sepoy Jagat Singh, 14th Sikhs1153 Sepoy Hakim Singh, 2/19th Punjabis1289 Sepoy Teja Singh, 2/19th Punjabis998 Sepoy Bhola Singh, 20th Punjabis4842 Sepoy Harna Singh, 1/21st Punjabis4711 Sepoy Sher Singh, 26th Punjabis4016 Sepoy Gulab Khan, 27th Punjabis3943 Sepoy Bahadur Singh, 36th Sikhs1742 Sepoy Nikka Singh, 47th Sikhs2006 Sepoy Partab Singh, 51st Sikhs2694 Sepoy Dheru Khan, 1/56th Rifles3457 Sepoy (Naik) Safriullah, 58th Rifles3601 Sepoy Saida Khan, 59th Rifles943 Lance/Naik Nand Singh, 76th Punjabis1979 Lance/Naik (then Sepoy) Misri Khan, 82nd Punjabis2225 Lance/Naik Bhagail Singh, 89th Punjabis2642 Sepoy Mangal Singh, 90th Punjabis2435 Lance/Naik Ali Ahmed Khan, 90th Punjabis3691 Sepoy Munsi, 97th Infantry3578 Sepoy Ramlalkhan Singh, 97th Infantry4572 Naik Sohbat Khan, 107th Pioneers1620 Sepoy Kan Singh, 120th Infantry2436 Rifleman (L/Nk) Goru Ram, 125th Rifles4487 Rifleman Khamba Sing Gurung, 1/2nd GR2288 Rifleman (now L/Nk) Dalsing Gurung, 2/3rd GR3294 Rifleman Diwan Sing Gurung, 2/3rd GR1979 Rifleman Lilbir Rana, 2/3rd GR2702 Lance/Naik Chandabir Ale, 2/5th GR2661 Lance/Naik Jaman Sing Gurung, 2/5th GR1441 Lance/Naik Jangbir Thapa, 2/7th GR3479 Rifleman Bahadur Pun, 1/8th GR3669 Bearer Fatha, Army Bearer Corps1229 Driver Zarbad Shah, Mule CorpsSquadron Jemadar Mahsow, 31st Mule Corps - AO 637 of 1920964 Sepoy Nathu Singh, Alwar IS Infantry1050 Sepoy Lal Singh, Bikaner Camel Corps955 Sepoy (now Naik) Jassu Singh, Bikaner Camel Corps543 Sepoy Sheo Nandan Singh, 4th Gwalior IS Infantry268 Sepoy (now L/Nk) Sampuran Singh, 2nd Patiala IS InfantryMedalja za hrabrosh / Medal for Bravery ("Obilich Medal") - silver (the medal)816 Lance/Dafadar Nur Hussein Khan, 12th Cavalry1127 Sowar Pal Singh, 16th Cavalry1383 Dafadar (then acting L/Daf) Mahbub Hasan, 23rd Cavalry1551 Driver Fazal Ahmed, 26th Mountain Battery585 Driver Mangal Singh, 26th Mountain Battery722 Driver Babu Singh, 30th Mountain Battery4167 Lance/Naik Chinna Panikar, 2nd QVO S&M4070 Sapper Abdul Aziz, 3rd S&M1787 Sepoy Tikam Singh, 4th Rajputs3871 Lance/Naik Dalip Singh, 4th Rajputs2893 sepoy Sis Ram, 6th Light Infantry2248 Lance/Naik Jewan Singh, 14th Sikhs1142 Sepoy Mehar Singh, 20th Punjabis1557 Sepoy Alam Din, 22nd Punjabis1485 Sepoy Nanak Khan, 22nd Punjabis4268 Naik Lahaura Singh, 1/23rd Pioneers3755 Lance/Naik Jan Mahomed, 31st Punjabis3871 Sepoy Dalip Singh, 36th Sikhs2446 Sepoy Ludhar, 37th Dogras194 Lance/Naik Shingar Singh, 53rd Sikhs986 Lance/Naik Ali Muhammad, 1/56th Rifles2353 Sepoy Bagga Singh, 1/56th Rifles4153 Private Sayyid Abdul Hamid, 64th Pioneers1683 Sepoy Hardit Singh, 1/67th Punjabis2041 Lance/Naik Dost Muhammad, 1/67th Punjabis2219 Havildar Nur Muhammad, 1/89th Punjabis3069 Sepoy Shera Khan, 93rd Infantry4518 Sepoy Harnam, 1/113th Infantry5309 Sepoy Intiaz Khan, 119th Infantry2488 Naik (then Sepoy) Kana Ram, 121st Pioneers3710 Lance/Naik Gudar Khan, 1/124th Infantry4079 Sepoy Sagoon Matkor, 128th Pioneers1936 Rifleman Nar Sing Thapa, 1/1st GR2215 Rifleman Hastaram Thapa, 1/1st GR4791 Rifleman Padam Sing Thapa, 1/2nd GR4216 Rifleman Rasker Gurung, 1/2nd GR2404 Rifleman Balbhadra Thapa, 2/3rd GR2286 Rifleman Tirthbahadur Gurung, 2/3rd GR2876 Rifleman Khar Dhoj Gurung, 2/5th GR2896 Rifleman Munesar Thapa, 2/5th GR2610 Lance/Naik Narain Thapa, 2/5th GR1522 Lance/Naik Digbahadur Rai, 2/7th GR3859 Lance/Naik Kishan Burathoki, 1/8th GR723 Driver Jalal Din, Mule Corps1449 Sepoy Hukam Singh, Bikaner Camel Corps188 Sepoy Mit Singh, 1st Patiala IS Infantry Edited April 13, 2006 by Ed_Haynes
Ed_Haynes Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 (edited) Not mine, but shown thanks to a friend:3810 Havildar Jiwan Singh, 28th PunjabisSerbian Cross of Karageorge 2nd Class (with Swords) by AO 534 of 1917 (Hypher 2:227). (Although this one seems to be missing its crown?) Edited April 13, 2006 by Ed_Haynes
Igor Ostapenko Posted April 13, 2006 Author Posted April 13, 2006 It's Serbian Obilich "For Bravery" Awards - Gold and Silver !
Ed_Haynes Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 Oh, duh, sorry, what an idiot I am. Should never post before coffee. Though, as I have the information up, I guess I should leave it, even though it is
Igor Ostapenko Posted April 13, 2006 Author Posted April 13, 2006 No !!!!!It's very interesting !!! Serbian awards to Allies - THANK YOU ! And ONE NAME of Award ! Serbians and Montenegrins - brothers
Dave Danner Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 The 1923 War Department report on decorations conferred in World War One to U.S. servicemen indicates the following Montenegrin awards:Obilitch medal - 1 Order of Prince Danilo I - 125 (1 Grand Cross, 10 Grand Officer, 62 Commander, 20 Officer, 32 Knight)Medal for Military Bravery - 94 Medal for Zeal - 10 (4 Gold, 6 Silver)War cross - 1 For Serbia:Star of Karageorge, Knight Grand Cross - 1 Order of the White Eagle - 32 (2 Grand Officer, 9 Commander, 17 Officer, 4 Knight)Order of St. Sava - 19 (2 Grand Officer, 1 Commander, 8 Officer, 8 Knight)Medal for bravery, gold - 1 I don't know how complete this is.
Igor Ostapenko Posted April 13, 2006 Author Posted April 13, 2006 The 1923 War Department report on decorations conferred in World War One to U.S. servicemen indicates the following Montenegrin awards:Obilitch medal - 1 Order of Prince Danilo I - 125 (1 Grand Cross, 10 Grand Officer, 62 Commander, 20 Officer, 32 Knight)Medal for Military Bravery - 94 Medal for Zeal - 10 (4 Gold, 6 Silver)War cross - 1 For Serbia:Star of Karageorge, Knight Grand Cross - 1 Order of the White Eagle - 32 (2 Grand Officer, 9 Commander, 17 Officer, 4 Knight)Order of St. Sava - 19 (2 Grand Officer, 1 Commander, 8 Officer, 8 Knight)Medal for bravery, gold - 1 I don't know how complete this is.One american recive Montenegrin Obilich "For Bravery" Medal - General Pershing !
Igor Ostapenko Posted April 14, 2006 Author Posted April 14, 2006 King of Montenegro , recive this medal . **************************************Somebody have photo of General Pershing with awards ?
Ulsterman Posted April 14, 2006 Posted April 14, 2006 Wow! Really interesting thread. Keep it going lads.I am 100% ignorant regarding these Balkan states' awards.
Ed_Haynes Posted April 14, 2006 Posted April 14, 2006 Somebody have photo of General Pershing with awards ?I have seen one somewhere. Let me look.Pershing's medals are at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, DC. I once had a chance to play with them, decades ago. They are not on display at present, as there is no preceived interest. When the Museum of National History is refurbished (a process starting soon), there is some distant hope that some of their medals may go on display (again). They also have the McKay Collection (think: Ney's Order of the Three Fleece).My father met Pershing when he (my father) was 10 years old. He was impressed, but did not care one bit about his medals (10-year olds!!).
g_deploige Posted April 14, 2006 Posted April 14, 2006 for beautifull Serbian orders look at the following Website of serbian Orders
Dave Danner Posted April 14, 2006 Posted April 14, 2006 Here is my Order of Danilo I, Commander's Cross:
Igor Ostapenko Posted April 19, 2006 Author Posted April 19, 2006 Great Order !!! Russian work ? Golg crown ?
Igor Ostapenko Posted April 30, 2006 Author Posted April 30, 2006 John Joseph Pershing http://www.colorado.edu/StudentGroups/PershingRifles/jjp.htm
orden_master Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Hello Dave, Hello Igornice commander of Danilo, verry well preserved. Most Montenegrin orders are pretty worn as it is told that a decorated Montenegrin takes off his orders by the end of the day and puts them to his pyjama ! Looking at the pictures without looking at the punch marks I would say that this is most probably a Austrian (Vincent Mayer&sons) work. French producers, mainly Arthus Bertrand have not made any punchmarks on the suspension loop.Best regardsMilanHere is my Order of Danilo I, Commander's Cross:
orden_master Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Here is a set of 2nd class, Grand Officer of the order of Danilo.this set is made in Russia and both items have the cyrillic punchmarks IO = Igor OzeretskiRegardsMilan
ilja559 Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Great set.Photo of the document from the book.
Igor Ostapenko Posted February 13, 2008 Author Posted February 13, 2008 Ilja , Thank you ! In this book you see some information about Obilich Bravery Medal ? Igor
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