Austrian Field-Pilot Badge 1st model?

[Noor]

Hi,

And again. One pilote badge (first model?).

Good or bad and what would be the value:

[Ian]

Noor,

My two cents worth is that this is a very bad copy. Two things immediately leap out at me and they are the wire securing the eagle onto the wreath and the shortness of the eagles wings. Possibly a Hungarian made example, but definately not a war time one.

These particular badges have been discusse many times on this particualr forum and always the same out come....very few where awarded and even fewer would have survived in totoday's market.

Ian

[Elmar Lang]

Hello,

in my opinion it should be an old piece made for private purchase. The current copies made in Hungary (f.e. from Horvath) seem quite different. There exist pieces made in the time of issue, where the eagle is secured to the wreath by means of bent wire, instead of the typical (official) riveted mount, as it appears on any piece made from Zimbler. In any case, a definitive response cannot be given on pictures only: I think that any piece needs a thorough, direct study.

The piece here illustrated looks quite damaged (cut-away wings' tips; chipped enamel etc.).

In any case, collectors should be VERY careful with all types of Feldpilotenabzeichen, Luftfahrerabzeichen, etc.

I think it should be better to wait and buy a piece of official type and manufacture.

Best wishes,

Elmar Lang

[Schießplatzmeister]

My opinion:

VERY bad (made in the not too distant past).

Value: 0

Sorry to break the bad news to you!

Best regards,

"SPM"

[Stogieman]

I think this is a recent attempt to copy a style of badges that was made by Zimbler between 1919 and 1925... I was waiting to comment so I could show examples of the piece(s)/style I am referencing. I am having connectivity issues at the moment due to a construction project and having difficulty sifting through my reference photos from my badges. More as soon as I can dig up the images. Bottom line, this one's a copy, IMO.

[Noor]

Thanks for answers and your opinions! You guys save my money!

[Lee Moore]

Shouldn?t the crown also be taller and the ribbon ends touching the wreath on this version?

[Stogieman]

Yes Lee, but this one appears to have the cross atop the crown broken/missing... or perhaps never there in the first place... another warning bell.

[Stogieman]

Finally, the photos I have been searching for. Produced ca 1920-25 during the depression. Very rare style

[Stogieman]

Reverse:

[Noor]

Very nice Stogieman and thanks anothers as well who adviced me! Of course after few first comments I decided not to go for this badge what pictures I post.