Bob Hunter Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It appears to be some sort of recognition of service in southwest Africa. Is it from a veteran's organization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 no, it is just an inofficial rememberence medal... most of them are on their own but I know some mounted on the medal bar. I have somewhere a picture with ribbon, maybe tonight...Heiko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted December 7, 2005 Author Share Posted December 7, 2005 Thanks, Heiko. I appreciate the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Bob, here they are... one with some additionals on a black/white/red ribbon and another one on a blue/white/red ribbon - I think the last one is the original ribbon belonging to the medal...Heiko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 next one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted December 7, 2005 Author Share Posted December 7, 2005 Thanks for showing the complete medal and ribbon. Now I know what's missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 So THAT'S what this is![attachmentid=18512]This has been in my Unknowables Pile for eons-- I had assumed something thrilling like a FRENCH municipal employees' credit union long service award or similar--but red, white, and blue were the COLONY colors of the German Schutztruppen, so this makes sense as a generic "Old Africa Hands" commercial ribbon.Thanks Heiko! And Bob-- PM me your address. You need this more than my Clutter Box does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 How absolutely gentlemanly of you, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 This is truly the forum of GENTLEMEN. Good on ya, mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 So THAT'S what this is![attachmentid=18512]Thanks Heiko! And Bob-- PM me your address. You need this more than my Clutter Box does!I have a loose Victoria Cross ribbon... Rick, if you have a loose cross laying around... could you whip it my way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 You'd be surprised what's lying around in odd corners here, after I moved into Jack Benny's old vault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 Rick, who's Jack Benny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 just to complete the confusion I want to say that red-white-blue are also the colours of the german state Schleswig Holstein and I know some regimental,veteran or rememberance medals from there having similar ribbons... HeikoPS: I really like this gentleman behaviour in here - great forum, great people, great world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 ...and here is Rick's nifty little Christmas present... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Gentlemen,I would like to point out that this ribbon (sort of) appears again among Imperial German decorations. For some inexplicable reason, the impossibly rare Brunswick 1827 officers 25 year long service cross has this ribbon reversed, so it comes out blue, white and red in a 40 mm width. I have always been intrigued by this ribbon because it does not fit in with any of the other Brunswick ribbon color patterns - blue/yellow and red/yellow. Also, while it obviously emulates the French tricolor pattern, the Brunswickers were among the fiercest enemies of Napoleons armies. Unlike many other German states, Brunswick never had any alliances with the French.Any ideas out there?Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Brunswick's connections with the British royal family might explain the red/white/blue colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 Brunswick's connections with the British royal family might explain the red/white/blue colours.David Gregory,Thank you. Your suggestion, a totally new theory, makes as much sense as any I've heard so far.Best wishes,Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 And........... to further confuse this issue... This popped up today in germany for 120- Euro asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Reverse......... the style is famililiar, but first time I see this medallion like this. Comments??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 the first time I saw this combination but I have no problems with it.... medal is some kind of rememberance medal and the other thing is from the main german vets organization "deutscher Krieger Bund" with the possibility to put the cross or medal from your local warriors club on it - as happened here. Heiko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Interesting...... was the medal a "local" award, or a national-issue/organization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 (edited) the southwest medal here was an national thing, but not official. The other thing with the ribbon was a national thing, too, of the "Deutsche Kriegerbund". Normally on that thing with the ribbon belonged some crosses or medals from local vet organizations... for example: the ribbon/badge on top and then a cross "Kriegerverein Massachusetts 2006" so you had the combination of national and local. The southwest medal here does not belong to the other thing but what is our most said sentence 2005????? : "Everything is possible" not only in Weimar times..... Edited January 3, 2006 by HeikoGrusdat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Thanks Heiko, I have not pursued the knowledge of veteran pieces/1920's items as far as I probably should. There are times my brain feels full enough with respects to aviation pieces....... My buddy Mike Dunn has a pretty neat/extensive collection and interest in veteran's pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 This one is out there too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 I think the bar is real, but the SWA medal is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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