Soviet What are these?

[order_of_victory]

To items I picked up a while a go does any body know what they are....

1st up a nice medal in its presentation case, possibly Bulgarian with a picture of a MIG on it

[order_of_victory]

2nd this looks Yugoslavian, but has a soviet looking boarder post and wepons on it?

Any clues or ideas please let me know.

Edited June 13, 2006 by order_of_victory

[Riley1965]

The cased medal is definately Hungarian. I checked the OMSA database and confirmed the colors on the shield and the language. There was a 25 year Long Service medal there that had Identical language in the outer ring. My guess would be that it is commemorating 800 years of...

Doc

Edited June 13, 2006 by Riley1965

[order_of_victory]

Thanks Doc

WOW! I havent seen many Hungarian medals

Does any one read Hungarian?

Once again thanks Doc

Order of Victory

[Gerd Becker]

Thats a Hungarian Airforce-Medal for 800 hours safe flying. There are numerous other versions of this medal out there, 1000 hours, 1500 hours.... and so on...

best,

Gerd

[order_of_victory]

Gerd,

Thanks for the additional info

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[Hauptmann]

Hi all,

I only have a couple modern Hungarian awards. This one is a labor Order I believe. I actually wanted the one that has the Hungarian coat of arms in place of the star so still hunting that one. But I love this one too... especially the light blue enamel. It really stands out.

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The other is my cased Hungarian sports badge.

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More on which you can find at:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7303&hl=

What little I know so far that is.

Dan

[Ulsterman]

That's a very nice Labour Merit Medal Captain!

1954 version-20,652 awarded.

[Hauptmann]

That's a very nice Labour Merit Medal Captain!

1954 version-20,652 awarded.

Wow! Door to door service with a smile! Many thanks! More than I've known by a long shot although I'd certainly like to learn more about many of the Hungarian communist awards. I love their enamel... beautiful stuff.

And this has a most unusual design as far as it being made more like a tinny yet it's very substantial in person.

Again many thanks for that info. Sure hope I can find some more to add to my pile.

Thanks!

Dan

[Ulsterman]

You are welcome!

I have the book (massive but well worth it): "Nagy Magyar kitunteteskonyv" which has award numbers. My friend in Budapest translated the Communist era chapters for me and I am slowly going through the Horthy era with a dictionary.

Hungarian awards are absurdly undervalued, well made, beautiful and my newest favorite area.

Great medal!

[Hauptmann]

You are welcome!

I have the book (massive but well worth it): "Nagy Magyar kitunteteskonyv" which has award numbers. My friend in Budapest translated the Communist era chapters for me and I am slowly going through the Horthy era with a dictionary.

Hungarian awards are absurdly undervalued, well made, beautiful and my newest favorite area.

Great medal!

You are a lucky man indeed! It seems that reference material on these Warsaw Pact countries are rather on the scare side and I don't know of any for Hungarian awards in English... although I could be wrong... been known to happen.

Sounds like once you're done studying that you'll have to become our resident expert on Hungarian awards. I promise... I'll have tons of questions so study hard!

And yes, they are beautiful pieces. Some of their red enamel reminds me of candied apples. Just stunning!

Thanks!

Dan

[order_of_victory]

Dan,

V. Nice medals, I have not seen such a range of Hungarian medals.

Is the badge Hungarian to?

If it is, is it a border guard badge?

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[Hauptmann]

Dan,

V. Nice medals, I have not seen such a range of Hungarian medals.

Is the badge Hungarian to?

If it is, is it a border guard badge?

Order of Victory

Many thanks! Yes, the badge is Hungarian... but not BG... it's for a sports organization. Go to my other post:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7303&hl=

And it goes into more detail on it. I've been trying for the last year or so to find out more but so far what's in that post is all I know.

It's a very nice well constructed badge and the case is very old world. It makes me think this was awarded to some high muckety muck... or their kid or something. It's serial numbered as well. But so far it's all just conjecture. Was hoping after I'd posted it originally that one of the members might know something but so far... no one's posted on it.

Anyhow take a look and let me know what you think.

Thanks!

Dan

[order_of_victory]

Sorry Dan,

I meant the badge I posted, it was far to early for me to be posting

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[Hauptmann]

Sorry Dan,

I meant the badge I posted, it was far to early for me to be posting

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Hi OoV,

Sorry bout that... probably too late/early for me too!

Okay... here's a link for a page that covers the various flags of the Hungarian People's Republic:

http://flagspot.net/flags/hu_h.html

You'll see those same colors of green/white/red... same as pictured on the border pole pictured on your badge.

I then captured your image, blew it up to try to read the inscription and put it through an online Hungarian English translation... which is by the way how I confirmed my sports badge as being not only Hungarian but also figuring out what it was for.

It's possible I got some letters wrong but I can't get a translation for it. Could be something that was a name of an organization that won't come up using such a translator... could be that it's two or even three words together. Just don't know.

Does it say anything at all on the reverse? If so, go to:

http://www.ectaco.co.uk/English-Hungarian-Dictionary/

or google to find a better one and type in what it says on the badge (either side) and try to translate it.

Based on the national colors and some of the design I'd say Hungarian. The starburst though has a Yugoslavian look to me.

Perhaps one of the other members will be able to come to the rescue. Ed might be a good choice.

For now... I'd be very tempted to say Hungarian... same candy apple red enamel... same national colors in the same order and same crossed machine gun design that I've seen on some of their other awards:

http://www.omsa.org/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=655

and specifically:

http://www.omsa.org/photopost/showphoto.ph...55&limit=recent

Given what I've seen... my vote is "YES" Hungarian. But try Ed as he should be able to confirm it. Hope I'm right... I need another notch in my research gun.

Hope this helps.

Dan

Edited June 17, 2006 by Hauptman

[order_of_victory]

Dan,

There is nothing what so ever on the back of the badge

Very intresting that the word doesnt tranlate

But thanks very much for the hard work you put in trying to figure out what it is. With Hungarian I wouldnt no were to start.

So when is the Bulgarian Version of the Red Bible coming out???

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[Hauptmann]

Dan,

There is nothing what so ever on the back of the badge

Very intresting that the word doesnt tranlate

But thanks very much for the hard work you put in trying to figure out what it is. With Hungarian I wouldnt no were to start.

So when is the Bulgarian Version of the Red Bible coming out???

Order of Victory

Oh how I wish they'd come out with one... for all the Warsaw Pact countries. So much of this stuff is sooooo obscure to the majority of us mere mortals. But at this point I'm thankful to have my copy on here of Boyan's book on the Bulgarian PR Orders and medals. Sad about the pics although they're definitely good enough to give a very good idea of what's what. And for $8 you can't beat that!

On the word not translating... wouldn't worry about that. Even DDR stuff... like in the references and such. Occassionally I'll come up with one that simply won't translate. Sometimes it can be picked apart and you can still figure it out. But often they were names of organizations or simply something that's a combination of Russian communist language mixed with the language of the satellite country.

I mean, that other cased award I want... I translated the first word as Army no problem. But the second... nothing. But hopefully over time I'll figure it out.

Thanks,

Dan