Bulgaria Bulgarian MVO ribbon match...

[Biro]

Hi Fellas

Can someone kindly help me out here... this is not my field at all.

The Bulgarian MVO is not on the correct ribbon, right?...

thanks

Marshall

[David Gregory]

Marshall,

It is hard to tell due to the way the ribbon is folded, but it looks like the ribbon for the national order of military merit, which seems to be OK for the class shown.

I trust someone better informed will confirm or correct me.

David

[Biro]

Thanks David!

M

[fjcp]

The Bulgarian MVO is not on the correct ribbon, right?...

Had this been issued during war time it would have had the ribbon of the Military Order for Bravery which is a light blueish gray colour.

So it's correct if it's a peace time issue, which looks likely since it doesn't have the wartime "wreath" either.

Is this a flatback variation? or is the rear also enameled

JC

Edited October 16, 2006 by fjcp

[Jacky]

If I'm correct, I saw this bar also on an other thread......

The rear was there also enamelled on that picture.

What does that denote??

Kind regards,

Jacky

[Jacky]

Anyway, both center medaillons are different....

The center of the Bar medaille is different from the single medal-medaillon.

Kind regards,

Jacky.

[Guest Rick Research]

The ribbon on the partial medal bar is indeed the correct statute ribbon for the Bulgarian military Merit Order-- yellow with black and white edge stripes.

The lion is the correct front, while the "F" cipher is the reverse.

Admiral Lietzmann's:

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Swords were a standard part of this Order's design and did not indicate combat-- the Bulgarian generic "war ribbon" of pale blue with a silver metallic thread stripe at each side did that. The green enamelled "war decoration" wreath seems to have been haphazardly awarded.

Of course, German outfitters often used whatever they had as "correct" in stock-- whether that actually was, or not.

What does the rest of the medal bar (front AND back) look like?

NO problems with that Order as it is.

[Dave Danner]

Anyway, both center medaillons are different....

The center of the Bar medaille is different from the single medal-medaillon.

Kind regards,

Jacky.

The center medallions are different because one is showing the obverse and the other the reverse, as Rick notes.

Also, when awarded on the ribbon of the Military Order "For Bravery," the enamel ring around the center medallion was white instead of green, as can be correctly seen on the second example. However, awards in German groups often don't show this, perhaps because of a lack of available medals with the correct enamel work.

For example:

Edited October 27, 2006 by Dave Danner

[Dave Danner]

Actually, I am wrong. Wartime awards on the ribbon of the Military Order "For Bravery" did not always have the change of the enamel ring. This was only the case when the IV and V Class were awarded with the war decoration wreath. When awarded with the war decoration, they could only be on the ribbon of the Military Order "For Bravery" and the enamel changed colors. Such an award indicated an award for combat distinction.

As for the regular ribbon, here is an Officer's Cross on the statute ribbon: