EuRob Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hello allMy new delivery and thought I would post for your perusal. I am very happy with these items.Also could anyone tell me who the maker is, it is stamped 'G'. Thanks Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 (edited) HelloOn a list of medal makers marks, from The Kaisers Bunker, http://www.kaisersbunker.com/stuff/1914_EK2_makers.htm'G' is listed as Godet und Sohn. I like the EKs but I am uncertain about the large non combatant ribbon. It looks in your photo just a little to clean and white for something that is anything between 76 and 92 years old, (they were still making and issuing the 1914 EKs into the 1920s / 30s). Does it glow under black light, (UV light) ? Edited October 21, 2006 by DavidM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 That is a good looking set. Period non-combat EKs are always a nice findand non-combat minis are not found all that often. Good score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuRob Posted October 21, 2006 Author Share Posted October 21, 2006 That is a good looking set. Period non-combat EKs are always a nice findand non-combat minis are not found all that often. Good score Thanks David, Greg.I will check the band under UV and let you know.I bought this from Berlin from Dealer who assured me its 100% original? But you may be right and its a replace band. Meanwhile here is a better scan without flash.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 David makes a very good point concerning the ribbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 HelloThe new picture without the use of flash looks more like what I would expect to see - the fading and 'yellowing' of the white areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 very nice piece - though it is well known that ribbons can be changed - the true historical value is in the ribbon. Still - a very nice piece - esp. that mini! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuRob Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 HelloOn a list of medal makers marks, from The Kaisers Bunker, http://www.kaisersbunker.com/stuff/1914_EK2_makers.htm'G' is listed as Godet und Sohn. I like the EKs but I am uncertain about the large non combatant ribbon. It looks in your photo just a little to clean and white for something that is anything between 76 and 92 years old, (they were still making and issuing the 1914 EKs into the 1920s / 30s). Does it glow under black light, (UV light) ?Hi DavidYou were right. It is a replacement ribbon. I tested it under uv light and it did indeed glow!! I also burned a little of the frayed top and this did melt. I did test the mini and am glad to say that this did not glow!! Now do I have the impossible task of trying to find an original ribbon? I reckon that will be a lifelong task!! Now my thoughts have turned to the ek itself. It does look good but hey I got it wrong on the ribbon! lol what do you think?Cheers Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Hallo Rob, nice find, just Lurv the mini pity about the ribbon, but in my book all crosses and medals looks naked without one I think you have a good chance to score an original, its 99% playing the waiting game and you never know your luck, after all you were told that ribbons for the Marine Kreuz were like hens teeth and look what happened Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 i think it would be reasonable to contact your dealerand let him know the ribbon is not period....non-com ribbon is relatively rare, but not impossible to find....love the crosses!joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuRob Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 hehe cheers Kev Yep you certainly disproved my analogy, big hand to you .i do like the mini that was the reason i got these as they were sold as a pair. Was thinking of getting hold of a combatants ribbon (period) and swapping them over and wait for the whole deal on the non combat to come along. good plan? I know some would say that the ek and band are not a true historical representation. But if it works for me? etcThe positive thing to come out of this is that I got a uv torch!! and all my other items dont glow! But get this, that flandern x band I got doesnt glow or melt but it is brand spankin new, has a feel of like when you get new sneakers it is firm, clean, serated cut at the top, ?? Rob pssst if ya see any nichtkampferband originales knocking about ahem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph A Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Noncomb mini! Hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph A Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 One way to be surer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo4361 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 (edited) Those are 2 beautiful bars Ralph! Thanks for sharing them, EDIT: AND a beaut of a mini!Kind Regards,Steve Edited November 4, 2006 by stevo4361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuRob Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 Well it seems that my idea of a lifelong quest to find a non combat ribbon took just 1 day!! Big shout out to Tom Y who saw my thread and he has kindly donated one and it is in the post as we speak!Cheers Tom I hope one day I can return the favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Did someone say noncom minis [attachmentid=59715] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 My rather shabby example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Nothing shabby about that setup Tom.It was a very nice thing you did by offering a ribbon too Rob Nicely done ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Hallo Tom Now thats what I call "shabby but with style" Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 The EK2/Mini pair that began this thread seems to be run through ebay.de at least once every month. Identical, or very similar, but every month some variation of the above is auctioned off. Food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 The Non-Combattant EK2 can be fun to chase... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Very nice Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Thanks Greg.... many of you will recognize these items as sitting in your own cases! Many wonderful things have passed through my hands over the years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Here's an eBay one now... Look Familiar??http://cgi.ebay.de/Eisernes-Kreuz-2-Klasse...1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Garvy Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) An "Fr." with a non-combatant ribbon. . .[attachmentid=60922] [attachmentid=60923] Edited November 15, 2006 by Bill Garvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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