muckaroon1960 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Some time ago I was given this Eagle motif which was glued to a wooden board and had been coated in varnish? I am assuming it is original but I have no idea where it would have been worn or for what it was intended? Size is 185mm x 75mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Auld Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Kind of reminds me of the sort of eagle on a vehicle penant for a commander as such?Without the rest the context is lost.Jock:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odulf Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Can you please tell us if it is painted or embroidered or whatever? To me it looks like it was embroidered... and matches the size of a general naval officers breast eagle. Not very exiting... It could have been glued on any material for whatever reason.... What is the glue like? (modern or ancient?) Value? To my opinion, whatever... Edited October 27, 2013 by Odulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Auld Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Can you please tell us if it is painted or embroidered or whatever?To me it looks like it was embroidered... and matches the size of a general naval officers breast eagle.Not very exiting...It could have been glued on any material for whatever reason....What is the glue like? (modern or ancient?)Value?To my opinion, whatever...Thats 185mm or 18.5cm by 75mm or 7.5cm, not even a German Genaral has a chest that big surely except on comedy sketches? Do you mean 85mil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Auld Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) I am looking at Uniforms and Traditions of the KM, volume 3 p314, at the bottom is a schematic of veh penant sizes.I have done the maths from the sketch and if it is 330mm in lengnth represented by roughly 55mm in the picture that would make the eagle in the picture roughly 15cm and a bit? Give or take since the other pic is 350mm so there must have been a bit of variation between different manufacturers?A possability?Jock:) Edited October 27, 2013 by Jock Auld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auseklis Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The birdy is looking to the right! So no Wehrmacht at all. It's a party eagle. And it is even to big for a vehicle penant. There are only two things with an embroidered golden party eagle this size, that come to my mind. But they are so unrealistic... Maybe someone else has a better idea first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Auld Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) The birdy is looking to the right! So no Wehrmacht at all. It's a party eagle. And it is even to big for a vehicle penant.There are only two things with an embroidered golden party eagle this size, that come to my mind. But they are so unrealistic...Maybe someone else has a better idea first?Thats interesting because if you look at the next page in the reference and the (period)picture at the bottom of p316 between 3 pages they seem to be looking in both directions, maybe they knew something was coming?Or perhaps it is to do with the way the penant is flying?Jock:) Edited October 27, 2013 by Jock Auld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muckaroon1960 Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Thanks for the input Guys. The badge is embroidered. It was glued onto a hand painted red/white/black wooden shield but fell off? The size is as shown in the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odulf Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) The birdy is looking to the right! So no Wehrmacht at all. It's a party eagle. And it is even to big for a vehicle penant. There are only two things with an embroidered golden party eagle this size, that come to my mind. But they are so unrealistic... Maybe someone else has a better idea first? Are you sure about the eagle not being Wehrmacht? Edited October 28, 2013 by Odulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auseklis Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 It's a party eagle, but there are some issues with this general rule. See here (in German): http://www.reichsadlerarchiv.de/vai.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auseklis Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 muckaroon1960, would you mind, if show your pictures on a german forum? There might be the right guys around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Auld Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Guys,I have just done a basic google by image for 'Kreigsmarine car pennant', it throws up a lot of other arms too and it is interesting that the Luftwaffe eagle seems to do the same thing, ie it is looking forward in the direction of travel?There are others on there that don't, like the DDAC or the police?Jock:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Auld Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Muckeroon, What did you decide in the end? I have had a look now in Uniforms and trads of Ge army and it only further re-enforces my thoughts that the eagle is from a vehicle penant? What are your thoughts? Jock:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lyons Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I am with you Jock, I think it is cut from a vehicle pennant, and the eagles from these pennants always have their heads facing to the front of the pennant, so one side will have the eagle looking the other way from the one on the opposite side of the pennant. Hope that makes sense ! Cheers Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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