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Hello Vitaly; I guess you don't understand the spirit of my question. When you made the bar, what did you do that would make it distinguishable from a period bar? Certainly using modern threads that glow under black light would not distract an owner from enjoying the bar and then it would always carry the "tell" that it is a modern assembly. You didn't do that. Your follow up comment regarding the construction was that it was "very close but not exactly". In your opinion, how is it not exactly? And what would you have done if you wanted to have a flawless forgery?

Just how good of a reproduction is it? How is the stitching under the felt look? Do the threads glow under black light?

Great photo!! What is the medal in first position?

Hello; The second photo close-up appears to be the Imp. Russian Service in the Caucasus cross, 1864. Or at least, the photographer painted that on. Could you also provide a close-up on the medals area especially the throat award. I can't see it very well, but it kind of looks like a 19th century Order of the Lion and the Sun.

Just a quick update; The contact at the Carl und Liselott Diem -Archiv was most helpful. He provided me with information that I hope to further explore, however the Archiv will be closed until July 25. Stay tuned.

This isn't much of solution, but it might get the "Special Seller" attention. For every photo of yours that he stole and is offering for sale on eBay, you post the exact same photo for sale. Even copy/paste the special seller's language for your description. The reason? Most buyers on eBay are searching ALL items in their category. They are going to find the duplicate posting and wonder what is going on? Who has the real photo (if either seller)? This will throw the bogus photos into disrepute and should dampen the sales price. Second, the Special Seller may contact you and ask why you are stealing his description and photo for your listing. He may even want to report you to eBay police. At this point the irony is complete. Stealing from thieves is not theft. You mentioned in your latest post that you use more copy protection materials in the future and sadly i think this is your most practical and logical next step.

Thank you!

Hello; Does anyone have the WWI regimental history for Königin Elisabeth Garde Grenadier Rgt. Nr.3? I am reading a soldier's diary and he calls his unit "Elizabeth Rg." . From August 1914 forward he mentions the cities he passes through and if they match up with the Königin Elisabeth Garde Grenadier Rgt. Nr.3 it would help confirm the regiment. Thank you in advance.

I intend to contact them. I just hope they don't think I'm asking because I have a screwball agenda and looking to add to controversial ideas.

I am going to try and contact the Carl and Liselett Diem Archive. They might be very helpful in this regard, and maybe they know his military career details as well (rank, unit, etc.)

This is an incredible development! Thank you JohanH for your research! I found mention of the Carl and Liselott Diem Archive that may have more photos and information.

Thank you. PM sent.

Hello JohanH; I looked at the medal bar again very closely under a magnifying glass. It is not gold and it does not look like it was gilded and the gold flaked off over the years. It appears silver (with the gold lettering and motif in the center). Your knowledge on the Swedish regulations casts understandable doubt as to the attributed owner (Dr. Martin). But to be clear, from your information, Dr. Martin received the 1st class knight Vasa Order? And in 1912 or even in 1924 the 1st class would be in Gold/Gold-gilt. The Vasa Order in this medal bar is clearly a Silver (2nd class). If Dr. Martin is recorded as receiving the 1st class, could there be any other explanation as to why he would mount the 2nd class his medal bar? Did he even earn a 2nd class and then later earn the 1st class? Or is Dr. Martin clearly not the owner of this medal bar and we need to look again at the list of 196 Germans that received the 2nd class Vasa Order and cross-reference it with the list of German functionaries at the 1912 Olympics?

For a non-Frack bar, isn't the pin in wrong direction?

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Hello; I would like to thank everyone for their input, links and information pertaining this medal bar and the gentleman that owned it. I found all of your insights valuable in addressing this interesting and complex medal bar and its owner.

Hello, This combination is extraordinary. Or is it too good to be true? And if so, is it identifiable?

Ahh, thanks. The addition of the coins looks great!

I posted this bar some time ago. Do you need photos posted directly to this thread or will this link be sufficient? WGMMM w/Lubeck 4-medal bar - Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States - Gentleman's Military Interest Club (gmic.co.uk) Since the last post to the above thread, have there been any updates to the award lists that might further narrow the list of possible recipients?

These were my observations as well. He was 15 years with Bavarians and then served in a different unit? Transfered or moved prior to WWI? Or with the Bavarians he didn't even earn a BMVK. The gent was obviously proud of what he did get by mounting them through Godet (from Berlin!). Maybe he was still in uniform after the war and acting some governmental capacity that he needed his bar to look perfect. That is a really nice medal bar! Thanks for showing it.

Sorry, late to this thread. What a nifty looking device. Look at all those hallmarks and silvermarks! On the underside and on each of the coin holders. If I understand them correctly, you can trace down the manufacturer and the exact year it was made with them. I see it was engraved on the top and underneath by two different owners that used it at different time periods?

Res ipsa loquitur

Trying to find a photo when you are just starting with the name is a lot like Pin-the-tail-on-the-Donkey. Much easier to go from a named photo to the POW rolls. Why the interest in Heinrich Müldner? Very interesting -I see he was a Translator in training and knew 13 languages!