Jump to content
News Ticker
  • I am now accepting the following payment methods: Card Payments, Apple Pay, Google Pay and PayPal
  • Latest News

    Claudius

    Old Contemptible
    • Posts

      2,932
    • Joined

    • Last visited

    • Days Won

      11

    Everything posted by Claudius

    1. This is a nice little bar I picked up over 20 years ago at a show. It didn't have the two saxon orders on it but the EK2 was clinging to the end of it. So, just like Charlie Brown's Christmas, I felt sorry for the bar and bought it to deck it out properly. Fortunatly it has clips underneath the ribbons so adding (and presumably removing) medal loops is rather easy. Just thought you would like to see it... Front
    2. $100K -SOLD! (just kidding) I understand this problem first hand with other pieces I have encountered from dealers but could make the leap to buy them because I felt the price was just too high. And that was when I allowed for a 20-25% price hike because of some superlative feature of the medal/badge. For some time now, I believe dealers list prices very high in order to do three things 1) Suggest a premium condition or rarity that the piece really doesn't have. 2) To earn the very highest profit from the sale of an item to a beginner or an un-informed collector and/or 3) Provide the dealer with an image of sophistication, knowledge and importance in the eyes of the collector. Chances are that the piece remains unsold (as is the item I'm looking at) or it gets sold to someone who is unaware, or does care he paid too much for it (as it has occured with many of items I looked at)
    3. Ah....that's why I asked the question. If someone is going to fake a bar, I was wondering why they wouldn't get the orders in the correct order. Thanks Heiko!
    4. Hello; Anybody else see this bar up for sale? What are your thoughts? I would think the Peter House order w/swords would be closer to the left. In front of the campaign medals and at least the Centennial medal. Wouldn't it? And the Red Eagle w/o swords would be moved down to the right. Correct? (For the record. Yes I copied the photo without permission from the owner) HausOrderPeterBar.doc
    5. Very nice bars. I really like the double award on #1 as well. And #4 has some great devices with four different state represented (besides Prussian). Cool.
    6. Does anybody have any details about Werner Gropius. I know he was a pre-war officier and became an Observer in WWI, earned the EKII. Thank you in advance.
    7. Thank you both for your research! It's nice to narrow it down to a few gentlemen, and will be great when it can be eventually attributed to one individual. I might even be able to find other awards (1st class pin awards, i.e. EK1) that he earned. I understand, for instance, that while the W GMVM USUALLY came after the EK1 award, it didn't always happen in that order, if at all.
    8. Sorry. Computer issues with the photos...I will correct and re-send. I have to reformat them to be small enough to fit as an attachment.
    9. Here's my L?beck for this collection of medal bars. It's very nicely done. The EK2, L?beck and Hindenburg are all tied down. And with the Wurt. GMMM I'm hoping this is traceable. I would like to know who this gentleman was.
    10. I agree with Haynau. BUY IT. Nobody can perfectly explain why they would buy the bar, but most of us feel that we would buy it -if we were presented with it.
    11. Here is a "mechanical" translation of the text: House medal House medals have a long tradition in the house Saxonia Coburg and Gotha. The today's "Saxonia Coburg and Gotha' house medals" go on the "medal of German probity" out of the year 1689 (other sources: 1690) back. The "medal of German probity" was created by duke Friedrich I. of Saxonia Gotha in memories to his father, duke Ernst the pious one. This medal is considered as the first German lay knight medal (see Nimmergut, Joerg, German medals and decorations until 1945, S. 1369, 1999) (isolated it is called even "first German medal", see castle, Paul, the medal of German probity, Leipzig 1921). The foreign exchange of the medal was at that time already "Fideliter et Constanter" (faithfully and steady). It is also today still the foreign exchange of the house. Successor of the medal of German probity was the Saxonia Sachsen-Ernestini house medal. This medal was again donated to 1833 of the dukes Bernhard Erich friend of Saxonia Meiningen and Ernst I. of Saxonia Coburg and Gotha as well as hereditary prince Joseph von Sachsen-Altenburg as "Herzoglich of Saxonia Sachsen-Ernestini house medals". He tied to the past principles and maintained also the medal foreign exchange "Fideliter et Constanter". The "medal of German probity" was already conceived as a "honour honor of the Fuerstlichen of members of our house and at the same time as public acknowledgment of earnings/services". Also the Saxonia Sachsen-Ernestini house medal was an honor for "state servants and Unterthanen, those with German probity, by excellent Thaten, special loyalty and devoted devotion excellent requirements on the attention and gratitude of the state acquired itself" (from the preamble of the statutes of 1833). The medal originally consisted of four classes (conditions 1833): Large cross Comthure 1. Class Comthure 2. Class knight beside it existed still another decoration with the stages "Distinguished Service Cross" and "earnings/service medal", affiliertes with the medal. With the award of the large cross to not-noble persons the acquisition of all rights of the birth aristocracy was connected. The number of medal awards was limited by the statues. Beside the princes of the houses involved maximally 9 further large crosses could be lent after the statutes of 1833. The other 3 stages were on altogether 12, 18 and/or. 36 awards limits. Starting from 1864 the restrictions became on 12 large crosses, 15 Comthure 1. Class, 24 Comthure 2. Class and 48 knights increase. The number of the Distinguished Service Crosses and medals was unrestricted. 1864 was introduced also further classes, so that starting from this year the following partitioning existed: Large cross Comthure 1. Class Comthure 2. Class knight 1. Class knight 2. Class as well as Distinguished Service Cross earnings/service medal in gold earnings/service medal in silver the Saxonia Sachsen-Ernestini house medal was lent to 1935 and represented one of the most outstanding earnings/service honors (see Illing, Fritz, Orden and Ehrenzeichen of the states of Thuringia 1590-1935, S. 19) Constructing on the extinct Saxonia Sachsen-Ernestini house medal now in the year 2006 by prince Andreas, Saxonia Coburg and Gotha, the Herzoglich Saxonia Coburg and Gotha' house medals were donated to the head of the house. Also with this medal outstanding earnings/services are appreciated around public interest and the house Saxonia Coburg and Gotha. Following the historical models the medal consists today of the following classes: Large cross Comthurkreuz knight cross as well as decoration that affiliiertes with the house medal Distinguished Service Cross The medal chancellor Dr. Otmar joining man
    12. Agreed! Wonderful bars. Earlier I meant that it hurt not to have them in person to examine. No different with these last two submissions. Nice ones. Any other beauties WNickel, (perhaps from other states?)
    13. That hurts....that really hurts. Seeing all these St. Henry's on bars.... Very nice and my compliments.
    14. Nice Bars! I especially like the lubeck and hessian one. Please show the backs as well...
    ×
    ×
    • Create New...

    Important Information

    We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.