Claudius

This medal is similar to the 100 year Anniversary of the War of 1812. It is even hanging on an Order of St. Vladimir ribbon, but the profile is different? Is this just a variant of that medal? Or is it a different medal altogether?

I managed to scan a photo of the medal. You can see some of the ribbon above although the colour is not clearly discernable. Any ideas what this is?

Sorry. I was too quick on the response.

From the looks of him I'd say he sat on a thone. Yikes- no wonder these guys had a gentleman's gentleman to get dressed!

Riley 1965: Outstanding bar! I think everyone on this forum would be ecstatic to have it in their collection. Great pick-up...even 15 years ago it wasn't a "common" bar. Let me know if it doesn't "fit" the medals of States you want to collect. I'll help you out. Rick: Am I right is assuming that this is a pre-wwi medal bar. All were awarded before the Great War. Later the recipient received his EK2 and updated his ribbon bar, but didn't bother with the medal bar.

Hello Alex K Yes, thank you. Orders are different than medals. I should have used two instead of one However, there is the ORDER of St. George and the Cross of St. George. Both of those use the same ribbon, but one is an enameled order (in the shape of the cross) and other is a one-piece medal in the shape of the cross. There are some wonderful photo examples on this forum for you to study how both an order and a lower medal can share the same ribbon. There are other examples of this happening as well. Imp. Russian medals usually use the ribbons from Imp. Russian orders. The ribbon chart bears this out. But I digress... The medal I am trying to identify is hanging from a light blue (or white) ribbon with yellow (or gold) stripes. The closest match I could find was a St. Catherine Order ribbon. And that is of an earlier version. (The 20th century ribbon colour was Red with Gold stripes.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was trying to identify the medal that would hang from a light blue (or white) ribbon with yellow (or gold) stripes? The ribbon pattern/colour actually looks a lot like the ribbon used for the Imperial German St. Henry Order...but that REALLY makes no sense. (it is neither a Imp. German hanger, nor a St. Henry hanging beneath it)

"WHITE"!?! with gold stripes. That explains a lot. My monitor makes it look more light blue. Then I don't know what this medal is? I thought I could figure it out on my own, but I think I ran up a dead end on this St. Catherine guess. I can't seem to download it to this forum. If anyone wants to see the obverse side of the medal I will email the word doc with the inserted picture for your curiosity. It's basically a "coin" shape bronze medal with the relief of St. George slaying a dragon underneath his horse. (and I know what immediately comes to mind, but it doesn't have the same orientation as the St. George Medal) The St. George Medal has the horse and rider facing left. This medal has them facing right.

Hello again, I was looking for the order/medal that goes with the Order of St. Catherine with a light blue ribbon w/ two thin, pale-yellow stripes. (see the website below) This website shows a ribbon color for St. Catherine that is light blue ribbon w/ two thin, pale-yellow stripes. It also shows the red ribbon with two thin yellow stripes with the notation that after 1717 is when they made the change. It's the medal (1st & 2nd class) that goes on this light blue w/ two thin, pale-yellow stripes ribbon that I'm looking for. http://www.medals.lava.pl/ru/ru1.htm

Hello; Does anyone have any information and maybe a photo of the Order of St. Catherine? My Werlich and Durov books don't seem to cover that one. For merit or service? How was it earned? Number awarded? Thank you, -Claudius

Thank you Chip, I agree with your thoughts on this.

Hello again; I wanted to retrace my steps on this question of "private purchase" ratings patches. Does anyone know the procedure they followed...I mean, did they just walk into a town when in port and find a retailer to make a patch for their rating? What cities could they count on to find them? (Presumably port cities)? Were they available on board their ship/u-boot or could they only access them when they were on leave in Germany? Was it encouraged to buy them to put on their jumpers for everyday use? So many questions, sorry I was born with this curiosity .

A tremendous bar. Thank you for sharing it. :cheers:

Well... there are six bids on it. The last one is a secret identity. Know doubt because he's too embarrassed to admit that he bid on this unpleasant specimen. :lol:

Hmmm... (Neville) ChamberlainStrasse in Zehlendorf At Number 39. Just a little follow up...Zehlendorf is in the Southwest corner of Berlin. The strasse was changed to "Chamberlainstrasse" on November 4th, 1935. When the area came under new management It was changed again on July 31, 1947 to "Niklasstrasse" and remains that way today. Apparently, where Mr. Thibaut lived in #39 is now the home to an environmentally-conscience cooking club called "Kochgruppe Kurschkern" Up the block at Niklasstrasse 19 is the Sri Lanke Embassy. I did have one question although...I don't understand this part... Why do you think he was a paymaster for Spies?

And look at that hinge. It's small, snug to the badge and tight. That's quality! A very nice piece that was obviously made for a gentleman that was very proud to have the award.

I didn't even know they were faking Oldenburg crosses, but there it is! I have to agree, it doesn't look very good.

genius...sheer genius...

Thank you Rick and KIR! I was hoping to flesh out this guy. Is there anything on him during WWII? Is there a date of death and place of burial?

Hello all; I have the paybook and a photo of navy officer Charles Thibaut, but I would like to confirm his pre-war and post-war activity. Does anyone find him the Rank lists? Any awards or medals? I know he was in China serving on the SMS Jaguar when he was captured by the Japanese. Thank you in advance. -Claudius

I agree with Kev...but I think is good badge. Great in fact! Nice wartime issue.

Does anyone know a dealer/individual that has a pair of Vize-Steuerman shoulderboards for sale? Or a stamped gilt metal Oberbootsmannmaat rating patch?

Nice document group! I love the Goeben references. Thanks for showing it.

Tim, That badge doesn't just look somewhat like the one I own -I had to run to my collection to make sure that mine was still there! It looks exactly like the one you have. Under the headline "German Jewelers" you will find the thread where I also asked this question. It's to bad there isn't a "Quelle" reference book of german jeweler marks. -Claudius

What! Are you telling us Igor that the name of this unidentified Cavalier is Brykov Andrey Alekseyevich? That would be outstanding. Slava1stclass has got to like that. -Claudius

Hello all; I just haven't seen many Imperial medal bars and I was wondering if anyone would share photos of some of theirs. Since the last one I saw for sale six months ago slipped my grasp I have been waiting for another to come along. Nothing. I think we could all learn something from seeing a few great examples... Thanks, -Claudius