Chris Boonzaier

Wow.... thats a pretty good way to start collecting !!! Welcome to a great hobby lilnuke!

Hi, The cross was in the tissue in the blue paper, the ribbon in the other tissue and the Ehrenkreuz seperate. It lookes as if he had never unpacked them never slipped the cross on the ribbon.

Hi, this cross has no ring stamp but a W on the eyelet. Have had a few of those.... was Wagner the only one to stamp the eyelet? Were they the early pieces before they realised the Ring was meant? Thanks Chris

This cross has a barely legible W? Could be a K or H.... any ideas? Thanks Chris

Hi, just to show there was the occasional unmarked issue piece.... Part of a little time capsule group.... a 1920 awarded piece....

Hi, Sorry, Typo in the title... I meant Wagner... I am not really big on EK2 variations... this liiks to be W&S ? I cannot remember having had one stamped like that before...

Wow... and it seems to have been worn like that!

Hi, my VII was captured as well ;-) http://gmic.co.uk/topic/5165-captured-stuff/

I think the U with diamond is at best a theory.... From what I understand, this was a WW1 capture piece... so not in service post war.....

For the time being this is as goos as it gets.... you can see the size problems from the Gew88... its pretty big. The seller had it mailed to a wall for the last 20 years, apparently he picked it up from a guy who bought it 25 years ago from someone who was trooping it in a Fasching Parade.... so my effort is a step up in conservation. One day I hope to do the flat on the ground behind glass variation....

Super, thanks, i aslo thought it was gone for ages! would you be interested in adding examples of their signatures to the site, i have for quite a few generals.

Hi Les, Mickey, good suggestions and I will take that into account in the long term. short term however, reality bites. At the moment I have gone the plexiglass route. I bought high grade plexiglas made in Darmstadt. The problems with displaying became apparent right away. The frame is 1.40m by 1.40m. Which is even bigger in reality than it sounds. To stiffen it i have wooden frames on both sides... I would say it looks perfect for display... But where? when the wife was out yesterday i removed a painting in the living room and moved some furniture... Hung it up.... Them she came home... now the frame stands against the Minenwerfer in the study, and the wife and I are not speaking to each other. if I had used glass from the get go it would probably have been broken by now with the moving. Maybe in 5 years time I will have more space and can go the glass route... But until then the whole thing will probably have to stay mobile....

I am with Andy, I really doubt a German connection with this patch. it could be for an association.

Hi Immanuel, I can really recommend the book to fill gaps in the Alpenkorps library, but I have the German Version. i can highly recommend it!

Hi, your one reassures me .... already the stamps and labels in the ebay one worried me....

Hi, It is a bad angle, but its "K. B. Inft. Leib Regts." , The "B" is pretty fancy and almost looks like a "23" There was a Leiber Verein Dach organisation, all Leiber Vereine grouped under the Crownprinz, so no mixing and matching ;-)

Hi, looking at Post 4 the holes seem to have been made at random?

Hi, According to the earliest Badge on the flagpole, they recieved the Flag from the Krieger Verein in Morlautern in 1913... so it was "in there" just before the war, the last badge being the 1936 Saarland one. I assume the flag went into Hibernation as it was not souvenierd by an allied soldier ;-) So it had the last of the 1870 veterans, then all the WW1 Vets up into the 1930s. I wonder if there was a Leib Regt association magazine?

Hi, the first step will be to freeze it to kill moth eggs, then between 2 sheets of plexiglass. The 1914 History of the regiment has the following on the association, ... I am guessing a lot of 1870 vets were in it in 1914... Comrades! When your service is over and you return to civilian life you will often think back on the times when you had the honor to serve in his Majesty’s Infanterie-Leib-Regiment. The spirit that carried you through your service should and will continue to live in every real “Leiber”, the spirit of the true soldier who understands the command “Forward! To the enemy, cost what it may”. The spirit of duty towards our Royal Family, his Majesty King Ludwig III. Comrades! There is an institution where this warrior spirit lives on. On the 24th of August 1892 the “Vereinigung ehemaliger Angehöriger des k.b. Infanterie-Leib-Regiments” * was created in München. We are proud to have created the first Regimental association to be founded in Germany. The objective is to continue the comradeship after the soldier returns to civilian life, and to nurture the love and loyalty the Leiber has for our ruling house. Membership also has a material advantage as when a member dies the family receive a onetime payment from the association death fund. His Royal Highness Prinz Arnulf accepted the role as Patron of the association and has a continuing active interest. His Royal Highness the Crown Prince has extended his Patronage to all branches of the Leiberverein. Today we are no longer a single association. Every city, every town in Bavaria has a Leiberverein. They are all joined through a central committee in München. Comrades! It is the honor bound duty of every man who ever wore the uniform of his Majesties Leib-Regiment to prove his loyalty to the unit by joining his comrades in his local Leibervereinigung. There you will find the true friendship that will support you as you venture forth in life. There you can refresh yourself and relax in contemplative hours. You will be forever connected to the regiment. When the day comes that your son volunteers to join our ranks, to serve the King, under arms in the same regiment as his father, then we would like to greet him as the son of a beloved old Leiber comrade. *(The Association of former members of the Bavarian Infanterie Leib Regiment) Verein-Association

Hi, I think there are two kinds of These flags, most seem to simply be for reservist associations and may have the name of the town or village..."Jonestown kriegerverein"... and then those belonging to a certain regiments veterans association. I think the leib Regiment was one of the regiments that actually selected men from various parts of Bayern, so unlike most regiments which were more regional, the Leib Regiment had members from various towns, cities and villages. I assume the purely town associated flags "Smithville veterans association" may have a limited market as they are not related to a specific regiment, but the regimental ones, especially for an elite regiment like the Leib Regiment are more desireable. I dont know if every Branch of the Leib Regt Association had a flag, they were probably too expensive. I think the Kaiserlautern Branch existed from 1904, in 1913 they bought their flag, and in the 2 decades that followed they probably had all the WW1 Leib Regiment Vets in the area marching behind it. Kaiserlautern was bavarian up until 1918 if my googling serves me correctly. It was invaded by and has been occupied by Americans since 1945 ;-) I guess there is not a lot of Militaria left in the Area as Generations of GIs and USAF must have picked it pretty clean...

Hi, it cost a bit, but peanuts compared to what the historical value...

Hi, Lets leave it at the lite version then, have no doubt there are "sides" on most things in the region. thanks Chris

Here you go you perverts!!! http://gmic.co.uk/topic/67118-bavarian-leib-regiment-assoc-flag-top-of-my-collection/

Hi Uwe, Thanks, That has been a bit of a head scratcher for me since I bpught the group. Best Chris

Hi, thanks, thats a new one! What would that mean in this context? All the best Chris