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Oberst Wachs pre 1902 wearing his BMV3 Regards Andreas

Thanks Rick for giving the bar his name back, You made my day It´s my first WW I medal bar from my federal state Schleswig - Holstein with a name. The Jäger - Bataillon Nr. 9 came from Ratzeburg. Thanks Andy for adding his life date Regards Andreas

Hello Rick, I had contact to Albert Raff, who has published some very good books about Württembergische Medaillen. He has been in archives and he told me, that the lists for Karl - Olga - Medaillen don´t exist. There are only lists for the Karl - Olga - Orden. From the bronze Karl - Olga - Medaille were 603 ordered. I don´t know how many from these 603 were awarded. Regards Andreas

Now, since Rick is back in town, may be the research Guru is possible to ID this Guy

Thanks Claudio for the additional informations, very appreciated Now I´m certain that my medal is for the china campaign 1900 / 01 Ciao Andreas

now the backside Enjoy

Today I finally managed to get some parts out off my lockbox at the bank and made some pictures especially from the back His pre war medal bar with: KO4 DSWA Denkmünze Stahl Centenarmedaille Phillipsorden RK 2 Albrechtsorden RK 2 Mecidiye Orden 4

Thank´s for trying Rick Yesterday evening I called up the former owner of the medal bar. Just in that moment he was on the way to vacation, so the conversation was quite short. The result was, that he believed to remember that the name was Müller. The bar came straight out from the family and nothing was changed. Later the guy should have been a Hauptmann maybe E at the TR Luftwaffe. I´ll get further when his back from his vacation, and then I´ll post them asap. Regards Andreas

and here is the back for Rick Every help and opinions are welcome. Regards Andreas

Hello Gentlemen, I got this medal bar about 15 years ago, and I thought it could not be traceable. While surfing trough old posts I was astonished, which knowledge and enthusiam is here around. So now I´ll try my luck. I belief this medal bar belongs to an Lt or Olt. It contains: Iron Cross 2nd Class 1914 Baden Zähringer Löwe 2nd Class with swords Sächsische Herzogtümer silbernes Verdienstkreuz with Swords

Hello Rick, before I could post this oldstyle ribbonbar I had to dig it out

Thanks for the translation Andy Regards Andreas

Sorry Paul but only in german, maybe someone could be so kind to translate General Commando IV Armme Corps IIa 175 Magdeburg 8.1.99 Korps Befehl Seine Majestät der Kaiser und König haben durch A K O dem Major Erich, Bataillons - Kommandeur im Magdeburgischen Füselier Regiment No. 36, sowie den Unteroffizieren Schlegel und Dolinski desselben Regiments für die von Ihnen am 8. August des Jahres gemeinschaftlich mit eigener Lebensgefahr ausgeführte Rettung zweier Füsiliere vom Ertrinken im Wallgraben des Brückenkopfs zu Torgau die Rettungs - Medaille am Bande zu verleihen geruht. gezeichnet von Klitzing Regards Andreas

Hello Werner, while surfing through old topics, I´ll found this one. Is this not the group from Oberstleutnant z. D. Fritz Paul Ernst Kurt Erich former Portepeefähnrich / Leutnant 4. Garde - Regiment zu Fuß ? Regards Andreas

I agree with You, I´ve to look for an Sec Lt in 1866 who was promoted around 70 / 71 to first lieutenant may be captain.

@ Andy and Christophe, thank You very much for Your work Christophe, could You please be so kind to post the names ? If You would do this, I could check them in the Ehrenrangliste. Regards Andreas

Mini chain reverse As You certainly have noticed, there is a difference between the bar and the chain. Bronze Karl - Olga - Medaille at the bar and a silver one on the chain. The trio came directly from private with the name Haußer. But I don´t know, if the name is right as I don´t have any lists to check the name. I don´t even know if this list exist. Enjoy Andreas

Mini chain obverse

His ribbon bar without the Ehrenkreuz für Kriegsteilnehmer

Reverse

Hello Gentlemen, before a year, I got this nice trio: Württemberg Charlottenkreuz Württemberg bronzene Karl - Olga - Medaille Bayern Verdienstkreuz für freiwillige Krankenpflege mit Spange 1914 Preußen Rote Kreuz Medaille 3. Klasse 3rd Reich additional fixed Ehrenkreuz für Kriegsteilnehmer

Thanks a lot for trying , but I don´t think that it´s a Frankenstein nor a fake. I´ve checked the chain and You can see that it´s grown with the time for example the EK 14, DAK and Centenarmedaille are mounted with loops in a different material. I known that it´s difficult with mini chains, and sometimes the merchant from minis mounted what he had in his inventory. This weekend I´ll post such an group. Kind regards Andreas

Hello, my italian is not so good, that I´m sure if I have understood the content right. My understanding from this text is, that there are only mentioned the italian contingents, those who could be awarded this medal ? If it is like that, could it be, that the difference could be awards to foreign troops ? Regards Andreas

Hello Rick, the SA3bX IMO was founded 1876, by then, there only existed one Ritterkreuz. The 1872 Rangliste shows only a Ritterkreuz SA 3 which looked like later the SA 3a. I think the old mini was lost and they hadn´t an old model to replace

Hi, as Rick recommended, I try to bring up this mini chain. May be it is now possible to identify his former owner ?! Kind regards Andreas