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This is the Seller name chrisnico2022 (986) It looks the same guy He sold the same PLM from other eBay account

Compare the enamel this one is Original and this is the fake Interesting news from other Forum This seller is well know for selling fakes on eBay.de --using different accounts

Thank you I do not know if he is the same guy This seller is from Belgium i suspect it is one of many accounts he is a bit arrogant when i questioned the originality of two of his items he stated that Kuenker Actions sold similar

More pictures I "like the way the aged the new box

Hi Igor Thank you for posting all those picture I followed the recent HH Auction. I was very sad that they put on sale few questionable orders. especially some Sets of the Order for Bravery -combination of good and bad items, couple of Questionable 1st Class Stars combined with Original Crosses to make a Set Some sellers will close their eyes to do a sell It looks like there is a new wave of Bulgarian copies

Too many copies on eBay.de - Germany told the Seller that this is copy He insists it is Original Wagner In my Opinion it is new production with" 938'" marks on the loop and the one of the arms Also marked "W" for Wagner on one of the arms The PLM is presented in a new badly faked age box on eBay.de Item number 314753864020 This is one of the many copies on eBay.de claiming to be original I listed this one because the Seller very bluntly denies it is a copy although the PLM it is not near the Original Wagner made Well Buyer be Aware Rule apply

100% sure the enamel is a soft modern one like the one on the picture ( listed on page two on this forum "upgraded' Original Commander of the Order of St Alexander) I sent an email to the seller See what he will answer I asked hm to do the needle tests on the enamel The seller responded to my mail He did not check the enamel Insist that the Cross is Original I cannot argue with him Buyer be Aware Rule apply Here is a close shot of the central medallion You can see the dull look of it The old glass enamel has very good transparency and dept

Fake 1st Class of the Order for Bravery on eBay.de Although i have to admit it is good copy it has many features that can trick only new collector - The additional ring is missing The Central medallion has too many dots The lion is very bad quality to be first Class The swords were wit wrong handles The back cap is wrong The pin although look good, is not a correct The Cross looks too shiny and new i suspect the enamel is new soft one i do not think that the seller will test it if asked to do so. The Seller claims that the Order is Original gilded silver I doubt It is scary that the fakers can produce such good copy The seller also sells few other fakes including well known PLM supposedly made by Wagner Has the marks however it is not near the quality of the Original -still attracted many bidders Here is a well known original 1st Class

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Very nice mini Group Thanks for showing it

That could be paper weight

That is excellent Congrats

That story of our lives We regret. Do not worry what goes around it comes around

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French box You can see the Crown looks made of metal The Order is nice however is not in the correct box Sadly the Seller did not want to separate the group..I missed the box

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Hi Igor it is nice cross I missed HH Auction. There were very interesting items. However some Bravery Order Sets looked very questionable to me regards

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Typical post war S&L production

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