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I have the complete collection, but as Vince and Alex said, would buy a reprint if it would include the new information that has appeared since the first print.

Thank you very much! It is indeed an awesome little beauty! Vince. It was last received by Felix Graf von Bothmer.

Thank you very much Sandro.

Militär Max Joseph Order

Thank you Christophe and Walter!!

Walter, thank you very much for your great contribution. here is a link to Schrettinger's digitalized book http://www.nbn-resolving.de/urn:nbn:de:bvb:355-ubr14543-2

Waldo, thank you very much for your information. Yes, Ritter von Epp is 268. My bad, I inverted the numbers.. thanks

Thank you Sandro, yes I have seen this MMJO recently auctioned. It is a beautiful piece in gold manufactured in WW1. Kramer’s VPP mentions in pp 78-79 that Kurt Ritter von Hoppfer was awarded MMJO Nr. 33. Thanks

Thank you Christophe and Sandro. I had seen this wonderful thread with the list of recipients. As a matter of fact, I searched everywhere to see If I find the list with Matrikelnummern and recipients, but could not find any such thing. For example von Epps MJ3 numbered 286 was awarded two times before him, once in the 1800’s. Kramer list this as MMJO Nr. 118 So, any idea on how to research a particular piece, say 286, and come up with the name of its 3 recipients? I would really like some help with this. One more thing, all MJ3’s were numbered, and this number was unique right? I mean there were no two number X repeated Right? it seems that the low numbered pieces that I have seen like 1, 33, etc, all were WW1 manufacture. So would this mean that there was no number 1, 33, etc produced in the 1800,s , or that the piece was no longer available, and a WW1 piece made to replace it? In the case of von Epp’s the 1800 build piece was passed among 3 holders. However, could it be true that MJ3 number 1 was made two times. The 1800’s piece which at sometime became unavailable thus needing a 1914 piece also marked 1. this is really confusing to me. I wish I could learn more....

I have a question for the experts here in the Forum regarding the MMJO engraved ring number, or Matrikelnummer, and the recipient to which it was awarded. I have access to Kramer´s “Virtuti Pro Patria” 1966 book, and Schrettinger´s 1882 book. Virtuti Pro Patria numbers seem to be chronological and not the actual “Matrikelnummer” For example, Oberst Theodor Ritter von Hermann’s MMJO that was auctioned a couple of years ago, has a Matrikelnummer 289. However Virtuti Pro Patria (page 147) lists von Hermann’s MMJO as number 150. I guess this is the 150th. MMJO awarded during WW1. So, how can I search a MMJO ring numbers to find out the times and recipients who received it? Where could I find this information? Your guidance and help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Wonderful group. Thanks for sharing

It is made in gold by Wagner. Unfortunately, I do not know who the recipient was...

Thanks. Without any doubt the most difficult piece to get is the RAO3 with crown and swords.....

Many years ago I posted a thread called "Finally after many years" showing a project of mine which took many years to complete. I have always (since I was a kid actually) wanted to replicate Manfred von Richthofen's Ordenskissen as it was displayed at his 1925 reburial in Berlin. At that time I had a copies for the Pour Le Merite and for the Red Eagle Order, 3 Class, with Crown and Swords. Fortunately, I have been able to acquire original pieces for those awards. All pieces here are, to the best of my knowledge, time period original. The only reproduction is of course the ribbon bar. Richthofen's Ordenskissen in 1925 had a Crowned Bavarian MVO , but we now know that he only got the MVO 4th with Swords. How that Crowned piece got into his medal bar is a mystery so far. Richthofen original Ordenskissen:

Stunning bars Claudio, thanks for sharing them...

For me it´s got to be this

Could you please share a photo of your Pour Le Merite with us?

Ok so a golden cross, with scratched W, but with silver swords. I guess it does make sense. A nice cross. Congratulations. I have a Red Eagle 3rd Class with Crown and Swords made by Wagner with basically the same eagle and letter chasing

Here is the one I have.

This is a horrible copy!

Dear Larentius, thank you very much !!!

Hello this is a portrait of PLM (26.09.17) winner Heinrich von Hadeln, born 21.2.1871. I was wondering if someone could help me identify the orders mounted on his medal bar. From left Ek2, HHOx (13.01.17), 3, 4, 5, MVK Austria, 7 , 8 His biography records him having a KVK II+. What would this refer to? And the Deutsche Orders Almanach from 1908/09 shows the Centenary Medal from Prussia, a Japanese Order and a Romanian Order right? Thank very much for your help!

Where could one get a copy of this Ordensliste?

Nice 1917 silver-gilt PLM. Is it yours? Is the recipient known? Which maker? W or Fr?