laurentius

Dear VtwinVince, would you happen to have some pictures of the restored medalbar? Kind regards, Laurentius

I agree here with Nicolas, we can see that the fourth ribbon has been fashioned for a decoration with the general size equal to an EK, which would in my opinion pount to a HE3x rather than a HoH. Kind regards, Laurentius

That's a lovely bar, I especially love the Orden Heinrich des Löwens

So that's were that lovely frackschnalle from Sascha Wöschler went Lovely example for your collection

Dear Scottplen, this is a bad bar, even with the mediocre pictures you can see the terrible quality of the ribbon and of the sowing on the back. I hope a collector of Austrian awards can join in, it wouldn't surprise me if a number of the decorations also turn out to be fake. Kind regards, Laurentius

Thanks for your help Nicolas. Assuming he has received the silver version of the medal (due to his rank) he would be one of only 300 recipients. That's lovely news. I initially bought the picture because of the fact that he is a WW2 officer wearing a House Order from WW1, but this medal makes it even more interesting. Kind regards, Laurentius

Thanks for your help Lilnuke. Here is a picture of the Oberst

Dear fellow forumites, I was lucky today and I managed to buy a lovely photograph of a German Oberst (colonel) from 1940, I will post it in this thread once I'm able to make a proper picture. He is wearing a medalbar with a EK2, HE3x, FEK, and an unknown medal (for the moment, I will dive in to find out what it is). I was wondering how many Princely House Orders of Hohenzollern 3rd class with swords were awarded during the first world war, would anyone be able to help me with this? Kind regards, and thanks in advance, Laurentius

Dear Great Dane, The swords on the ring do signify he had a lower class of the order with swords ( in your case a 4th class). When there is a distinction like this with an officer (a peace-time and a war-time decoration) than two decorations are allowed to be worn. If your man had been a civilian, only receiving all his decorations without swords he would only be allowed to wear one. The reason why the Almanach printed both classes received is to avoid confusion. If someone gets a Crown Order 2nd class with swords on the ring he might have received a 3rd class with swords, or a 4th class with swords. Kind regards, Laurentius

Maybe he liked the eagle better, seems to be a recurring theme in Germany in those days🤣

Is it not possible perhaps, that he chose only to wear his German pre-war awards? All of his peacetime awards are German, whilst I can imagine that an up-and-coming colonel as himself, often praised for his work gathered quite an amount of awards. Maybe he had to make some tough calls and left several awards of his ribbonbar. Highly decorated men like Ludendorff always had to watch out not to wear ribbonbars which are too long, like Ludwig Beck in this picture. Kind regards, Laurentius

I agree with Nicolas, the blue ribbon is a Friedrichsorden with swords. A KO4x would need the ribbon of the Iron Cross. I also agree that the sixt ribbon from the right, squeezed in between the Bavarian Order of St. Michael and the Centenary-medal, is a Long Service award. I had the same idea as Claudio, this could very well be a ribbonbar which belonged to Ludendorff. Kind regards, Laurentius

Dear Utgardloki, I have seen several photographs and paintings of him in the past wearing his sashes in this style. Although it was customary to only wear one sash at the time I have seen many photos and paintings ranging from the Napoleonic Era untill now of people wearing two or more sashes. However, I have only seen this manner (cut sash attached to belt) with Wilhelm I. I wonder if there ever were others from his era (like him, veterans of the napoleonic war) who partook in this style? Kind regards, Laurentius

Dear Peter, in the first place should be either a Red Eagle Order or a Crownorder on white-black ribbon with swords. Kind regards, Laurentius

Dear fellow collectors, after looking through the Wikipedia-page of the new HBO shows 'Chernobyl' I ended up reading Wilhelm Röntgen's page and I found out that this German scientist had quite a number of decorations. Among these decorations were a Crownorder 2nd class, the Merit-Order of the holy Micheal and the Order of the Bavarian Crown. He is also listed as having received an Iron Cross 2nd class on the white-black ribbon (civilian). Did he get this award for actual participation on the homefront (he lived in Munich the entire war), or was this award given solely for his groundbreaking work in the area of radiology, which helped doctors treat the wounds of soldiers better? Kind regards, and thanks in advance, Laurentius