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Hi Matt I have that signature on another document, it is von Klösterlein ! You raise an interesting question regarding these a.D. officers. I checked my files and it is rather certain that no Hptm/Rittm a.D. was leader of an FFA/FA during the War. However you find a few who were leaders of smaller units like Kastas, Schustas etc. But mostly you find these a.D. at support units like AFPs and training units in home-land. Gunnar
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Hi Matt I have an regulation order about FFA somewhere in my collection. But I cannot re-find at moment. If my memory is correct it clearly stipulates that the commander should be(not written must) be an active Hauptmann. Later I do think they changed it little and said it should be an active Hptm or senior Oblt. Indirectly it gives an age of the commander. However it is quite possible that Paul Neumann became the "first" aviation commander of an front-line unit that was an dR. I do think that his pre-War service presented by Glenn and that he probably had good leader qualification could explain that. In late 1914 another Hptm dR became an leader of an aviation front-line unit. Also in this case he had an impressive pre-War service. Unfortunate I do not have his complete service record but I do think he stayed at front until mid 1917. I do not think he was commander of an AFP. He ought to have received EKI late 1914 or early 1915 so maybe mentioned in the MWB.? He ought to have received the BeoAbz in Aug-Sep 1914. Gunnar
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Hi Matt Interesting info ! Shortly after BOW Paul Neumann (seems he used this rufnahme at this stage) was re-activated as Hptm dR (191014) within FB 1(not his earlier Regiment IR 19). It seems certain that he spent the entire War within the Air Force. After the War he was living in Berlin as Major aD. As an author I am not aware that he wrote his own history. I do think he left the command of AFA 214 in the autumn of 1916. He got Abschied on 270320 with char. Major. Gunnar
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Hi I wonder if anyone have access to this book : Paul von Broecker, Edwin Kayser: "Das 5. Lothr. Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 144 im Weltkriege", Erinnerungsblätter deutscher Regter. Bd. 229, 1928 Oldenburg i. O., Stalling, 335 Seiten I am searching a first name for Hptm Steinbach and possible date and place of birth. Gunnar
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Hi Dave Interesting information. The RQL from 1902 to 1906 gives the first name for the Herrmann from FüR 36 as Johannes. Hans is a normal shortening of this first name. Does the Roth reference says he was at stab Stofl Süd ? Maybe he was actually the Stofl Süd. Do you by chance have date and/or place of birth..? Gunnar
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I do not work on my own, so you dont need to worry Rick I use references for the people who contribues with answers or good hints which leads to solve a case. Rather often it could be more then one reference except my own work. I do prefer original sources and I have totally spent long times in archives. Anyway, as you have doubts about me (which I can accept) it is a more fair behavior just to ignore me. That is no problem because I dont primary seek people who have the answer. I do search people who are willing to give an answer or an hint to come further.. However, thanks for the hint regarding Bonn and his two brothers/cousins that was new info for me.. In cases like this such info is valuable for me for further research. I did search for Rittm Heilmann and the Töpchin connection six months ago on the net and actually found one Fabrikbesitzer Heilmann in Töpchin but also in this case without first name Gunnar
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Hej Rick The reason why my ö is gone is that "this" website kick out people on regurlaly basis. So I could simply not log in anymore and needed to create a new log in So I am only one person. I sometimes answer other peoples questions if it concern flyers. You can check my log. I am a private researcher regarding German WW1 aviation since nearly 40 Years. Some of the collected material are planned to be published in some way. Gunnar
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Hi Matt I have been away several weeks without any cpu connection. This search of German officers and trying to identify them is an continuing work which means that information I had a Year ago (in this case) partly could be obselete. His name is Hans Liesner but the date of birth given above is for another Hptm x Liesner. However also Hans Liesner ought to have been born around 1886 to 1887. I saw an Militärpass on ebay some Years ago where an Hptm Liesner signed as commander of AFP A in 1916. Sadly Hans Liesner dont have an file in the archive in Freiburg. However when reading through another file in Freiburg a week ago there were notes about AFP A and Liesner was also named. However he was noted as Adjutant of AFP A in 1916. So apparently the MP was not correctly signed as Liesner forgot to note i.V. Anyway I am still hunting his date and place of birth..! Gunnar
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Thanks you crushed my only candidate.. It is very strange if that Oblt dR Alfred Barth not was promoted Rittm during the War due his date of promotion to Lt dR. But maybe he did something "wrong".. with a normal promotion cycle he "should" have been Rittm in the autumn of 1916. Time to find another possible candidate. My Rittm Barth was Kp leader in a home land unit in spring of 1917 but it was not a Saxon unit. Gunnar
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Hi I am trying to identify an Rittm x Barth who is mentioned during 1917. The only candidate I have at moment is an Oblt dR Alfred Barth from TrB 12. He was promoted Oblt dR 08.12.14. I dont have access to any Saxon MWBs from the War so I cant check it myself. Anyone knew if he was promoted further..? Gunnar
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Hi I am searching first name and date and place of birth for Hptm dR Ziegler who received the Saxon Albert Order in summer of 1915. I knew he started his career as active officer in FüR 35 then later went over to IR 155. Probably sometime late 1913 he went over to the Reserve. Anyon who can help..? Gunnar