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A good pick up Jock. The first one, the MKIII looks good with the net. Interesting it has a 1940 dated liner in it, though the liners are the same as for MKII's so why not. The early MKIII's have a textured khaki green paint which was soon switched to the brown seen on the second one. Not sure what colour the first one is. Here is my example, 43 on the liner, but nothing visible on the shell and it has the early textured khaki green paint.

Thanks Kris, I would have guessed at Engineers. It looks good and not something you see often, so hard to say much else. Hard to evaluate such as this, as they would be really hard for most collectors to display.

What is on the buttons Kris? Do you know what it is for?

Do they show any correlation datewise with their being red or blue? Another from my collection, not Navy but Army Tankers NCO arm badge. Certainly post 1920's in this case.

Hi Mervyn, Rare to find so many had survived for him, as mostly all you can find is his MIC. Among them are some interesting snippets, his being admonished for being absent overnight, his being given 28 days field punishment no.2, the amount of battalions he served with, his being at Gallipoli and then being POW fron the end of the Somme battles, his cause of death so soon after his return and the attempts by his regiment to clarify how that had ocurred. I was very lucky with this medal, as most, as you will well know, often have very little to be discovered. Some WWI medals can be a real delight in terms of research, as was the case with this example.

I don't remember where I picked the information up from, but as far as I am aware it is accurate. Though like all such things there was probably somewhat of an overlap as old stock is used up.

Officers tunics. Early 20th century Volunteer Battalion officers undress scarlet frock. Unnamed and sadly missing its shoulder boards. Major C.J.L Lewis, served in the far east as 2ic to 2/RWF after previous service as 2ic 4/RWF. Captain/Acting Major J.R.O.Williams, attached to HQ 30 Corps Mil S. Brigadier J.R.H. Orr CBE, MiD, served with the Indian army from 1928, with among others the 11th Prince Albert Victor's Own Cavalry (Frontier Force) including in North Africa, also with the 6th Mahrattas as aLt. Colonel until he joined the RWF in circa 1948 and then on attachment to the Kings African Rifles in Kenya where as a Brigadier (70th BDE) he was mentioned in despatches and also for which he was awarded the OBE and then later the CBE.

Officers collar badges. There are two main variations, the earlier type has a beast that looks like a griffin and has no loop in its tail, the later type has a dragon with a loop in its tail. It is not known when the chnage took place, but most who have an opinion think it took place circa 1920 when the spelling chnaged from Welsh to Welch. Early type. Later type Also come in bullion. And a sweetheart conversion. I have more examples, but these suffice to show the variations to be found.

OR's metal shoulder titles. 3 combination versions and two seperate types, one of which has been converted into a sweetheart brooch. I have the flaming grenades to go with the two pice versions, but have not shown them.

Very good example. I notice it has a red dot in the center of the crown and I have been told that was changed to a blue dot in the 1920's. Here it is on an example from my collection, to show to what I mean.

And the rest of the papers for him.

Hi Mervyn. I have, as mentioned above, most of his pension records including what he died of and a number of letters from the regiment trying to find out if his ilness was the result of his service, but it seems no answer was forthcoming and hterefore he was not listed on the CWGC. I'll add the full set of papers here in two posts.

And a post WWII machine embroidered version.

Cloth shoulder titles, two pairs of the printed version and one hand embroidered in silk. Printed. Embroidered

Great stuff Graham. My two offerings for the regiment. Late Victorian on lugs WWII plastic economy.

Or's cap badges. pre 1920, including one that has been converted into a sweetheart brooch. Post 1920, including 2 WWII economy plastic versions.

Or's Glengarry cap badge, late Victorian period. Officers pre 1920 osd cap badge. Officers post 1920 osd cap badge

I looked in Bryn Owen's book on the Welsh militia which covers this unit and he showed an example from when they had converted to the 3rd VBn. and that also has WF on the shoulder titles. so just one of those regimental oddities. I have emailed you.

Hi Chris, already posted it here. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/62338-ceramic-memorial-plaque-wwi-swales-borderers/

Thanks David for your very quick reply. I was in the museum less than two weeks back, but did not notice one with only WF on the titles, but I was with the wife and though she is very good about such things, I did not study everything as much as I would have liked. Is the tunic listed for sale on the forum? If not perhaps you could pm me with details?

I shall add some of my RWF items to this thread. First off, an Indian made officers coloured FS cap, probably from circa 1938.

Looking through older threads to the RWF and found this one. What a stunning Vol Bn's tunic. Did anyone work out why it only has WF on the shoulder boards? Did it get sold? I have a later RWF Vol Bn's scarlet frock in my collection.

Some of his details. He died a few days into the battle of Messines ridge. He was wounded on the 10/06/17 and died the following day. Private Unit 50th Battalion Corps Australian Infantry Force Australian Imperial Force Date of Death 11/06/1917 Cause Died of wounds Age 35 Next of Kin Son of Thomas and Eliza Wheaton. Native of Plympton, South Australia. He is buried here. BAILLEUL COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION (NORD) III.C.55.

Thanks Mervyn and Mike. The 3 services plate is quite interesting as it appears to have one of the naval guns converted for land use shown on it. I just checked ebay and amazon for the book Mike. None on the former, but quite a few on the latter.

19th (Service) Battalion Formed March 1915 by the Welsh National Executive Committee as a Bantam Battalion. With 38th (Welsh) Division at Deganwy until August 1915. September 1915 : transferred to 119th Brigade, 40th Division at Aldershot. Landed in France early June 1916. 6 February 1918 : disbanded in France, men going to 8th Entrenching Battalion..