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with oaks-?! hmmmm...if possible, I'd think Diplomat or minor Royal-or maybe even 2nd bar (which would be really most unlikely). I'll bet he's in the 1908 Ordensbuch though. good hunting.

Hmmm-really interesting medal. What was it awarded fr-party service or general service to the nation?

Great collections! What was the "collective of Socialist Labor" given for?

Nice! I love the quality. the long service medals were rarer than most people would suppose.

CD's article has arrived at last-see the latest edition of the JOMSA for an excellenta rticle about the Kivolo badges. http://www.OMSA.org Well done sir! Happy Easter too.

For those who are interested, BBC radio 4 has a really good series (which you can hear through the computer) about the Falklands.

Gracias mi amigo!

very cool-but what's the difference between a "company fireman" and a "volunteer fireman"? Regular -vs-volunteer or did companies have their own fire departments? Also, whats the fire prevention service?

nice! Any medals?

I have no idea about the local medals and am busy working of seeing the federal awards. I have the laws, some regulations, but damn few pictures or medals-let alone documents! The local awards I see mentioned and in some cases, can see the legal resolutions or statutes in provincial government web sites. However, the pictures above are about as close as I can see-so far. It's a rapidly growing field for certain. I am hampered by O level Spanish, but I have been looking on the internet for about a year and in that time there has been an almost daily new web site, article or resolution posted. Some sites, which were really good, have evaporated. The major Argentine vets web sites ALL are rabidly anti-British to varying degrees. The leading site includes a number of references to British troops on Tumbledown bayoneting and shooting POWs etc. etc.. There are numerous calls for a Sgt. Pennington (who I think was a Para) to be brought to the Hague for war crimes. A leading Argentine news web site (the Argentine "Slate") just did an article about the 'triumphalist" and "neo-imperialist arrogance' of the South Atlantic Medal Association selling commemorative baseball caps and polo shirts linked to the UK MOD. History lives!

Yeah, I wondered about that- I think she's accepting it on behalf of her husband. there seems to be a line of people on the right handing out the crosses in boxes.

well, it would fit! It's old-you can tell . I am chuffed!

Nice tunic! This is the'workers' guard' right? Control held by the party? The kivolo badge, some dealers state that this was awarded for 5 years service. Do you now if that is true, a generalization and/or was it awarded for merit as well?

Ah-my mistake. I must confess, I did wonder at the reference.

Fair enough- the ribbons all do follow the same color pattern, but the widths of the stripes and the stripes placement change almost medal by medal! A fascinating subject!

here's the latest from CD: I suspect its 1980s issue-lighter, brassy alloy instead of the heavier "silver" type thinner medals.It's a twenty year service medal. I note three or four different types of ribbons on these types of medal alone and then there's the professional firefighters' medals, the enameled ones from 1974....there's a lot to collect here. But what do all the different grades mean: part time, full time, merit, long service, combinations, bravery...? By the way, what is the book in picture #3 above?

Madonna????! here's a vet from terra del Fuego. The variety of the official (local) commemorative medals is stunning.

Here's one with the name on the back. They are supposed to be engraved, but many are seen without a name on the back.

Interesting thread. I have been watching medal developments in Argentina for a year now as the anniversary approaches. There are a limited number of references on Argentine medals of all eras. The Falklands?Malvinas campaign medals are less obscure,-sort of. One of them out there was put out by the Argentine navy shortly after the war and another is Jeff Floyd's article in the JOMSA. There have been two major philatelic developments that I have observed: 1. The 20th and 25th anniversary of the war have prompted lots of provincial and municipal ceremonies-and specific medals. That is, cities like Rio Grande, Buenos Aries and some provinces have awarded commemorative medals to veterans of the war. 2. The Argentine federal government itself seems to have had at least three and maybe even 4 iterations of the campaign medal. I have medals with dates 1986, 1990 and 1993 on them (issue dates) and I have seen ones out there with 1996 on them. I have even spotted what I think are recently made Chinese fakes-although these may be legitimate replacement medals for all I know. I am coming to the conclusion that state issued commemorative medals are a symbol of rising or solidifying political power. While they commemorate history and historical acts, they also seem to illustrate inchoate political confidence. In Argentina, "Los Chicos" were ignored and demeaned for quiet some time-much like Vietnam vets in the USA up until the mid 1980s. Their time seems to have arrived and they are certainly flexing some socio-political muscle. This muscle flexing also seems to reflect new found Argentine economic and political confidence. There's a PhD thesis in there somewhere I think. Pictures from last weeks parades.

OK- I managed to id the bottom one-Philippines Independence ribbon @ 1950

nice collection Doc- they'd look good on the OMSA database too of course.

To add my 2 pfennigs-train troops, especially the officers, were not considered very highly by their regular counterparts.

I bought these this weekend. The maroonish one with 2 center stripes has that 1940s plastic coating so popular 50 years ago. the other one has a '1970s" feel to it, but I can't i.d. them. Any thoughts? CAP, ROTC, NG maybe?

Nice one Humberto. The Prince is long suspected of having been behind the purported poisoning of Napoleon. He certainly tried to assassinate him and had an extensive intelligence network throughout France. He is one of the reasons Waterloo happened.

nice bar Wild Card. So, how about a medal of Zeal handed out by the Tzarina on one of her frequent visits home -only a neck version? I have seen bars where medals unworn at the neck or on the coat , were represented on the bar.