Mike Huxley

I think you mean the founders of the "British Empire" Ed But yes Erich, British Battles and Medals, 7th Edition is a very good starting point for checking out the types on naming on medals. As Ed does rightly say though, there are many privately engraved medals out there. Mike

Yes I do Rick, His name and background. This has been provided by "Rick Research" many thanks to the master. ALBERT von Hesler, born almost certainly in Elberfeld, circa 1893. F?hnrich Sch?tzen Rgt 108 8.2.13, Oberleutnant aD alive 1926. Albert Order Knight 2nd X 22.12.14 as Lt in SR108, Civil Merit Order Knt 2X 23/12/16 as "Lt in a Kampfstaffel." He had a younger brother. Wilhelm b. Elberfeld 25.5.1895, MIA 12.9.1916 Bouchavesnes, confirmed KIA 14.9.1916 as Lt from SR 108 serving in Res Inf Rgt 241, Albert-Knt 2X 22.12.15. Also the senior brother. Friedrich born Elberfeld 11.11.1891,alive 1926. Leutnant Gren Rgt 101 24.6.11 F, Hauptmann ad in Reichsheer ca 1921-23. St Henry Order 23.12.14 for a number of useful recon flights around warsaw, forced down behind enemy lines, he escaped on foot. Albert-Knt 2X 27.9.16 in Fliegerabteilung 300 "Pascha" (Palestine front, so unknown Turkish awards), Civil Merit Order Knt 2X 15.11.17 with CO of Air, 3rd Army. Regards, Mike

Last one awarded to an Observer.

Next one, without a St Henry, but still in it's case.

Christer, Even pinpon590 price from Nimmergut's 2009 list is under the true value for this award in good condition IMHO. When mounted on a bar along with other Saxon awards it's only second in place to the St Henry Knights Cross. So if you like it .... then here's a couple of pics of this one in conjunction with it's other officer awards that I'm lucky to have in my collection :-)

I give up :banger:

Thank you Ed, better to be safe than sorry. I have passed this on to Leigh to discuss with the others. However it would seem that only posting a cropped view of the front of the card if it is related to an enquiry would be OK as Ancestry.co.uk are the only ones to publish both side in one view. Of course, there is no problem with you sending a full copy by email to the enquirer. Regards, Mike

Ed, A typical gung-ho reply from you. As a person that is supposed to protect the interests of the forum I would have thought you would have taken the appropriate action yourself and cropped the view to just the front of the card. I was trying to assist the Forum from falling foul of legal action. But who am I ? Mike

Ed, While I understand how useful it is to post copies of the Medal Cards that are available from Ancestry.co.uk, may I remind you of their conditions. By showing complete copies of both sides of the medal card I believe you are infringing their rules and could leave the forum open to legal action. This has been mentioned on the BMF and it is advised to only show the front of the card. Here is Ancestry's terms. Limited Use LICENCE You are licensed to use the Content only for personal or professional family history research, and may download Content only as search results relevant to that research. The download of the whole or material parts of any work or database is prohibited. Resale of a work or database or portion thereof, except as specific results relevant to specific research for an individual, is prohibited. Online or other republication of Content is prohibited except as unique data elements that are part of a unique family history or genealogy. Violation of this limited use licence may result in immediate termination of your membership and may result in legal action against you. You may use the software provided on the Service only while online and may not download, copy, reuse or distribute that software, except where it is clearly stated in connection with software that it is made available for offline use, and a licence for such use is provided in connection with that software. Cheers, Mike

Mike, I just noticed this comment made on another forum and was wondering if it could have a possible link to your piece? "This Piece is the same type of copy that "Flatken Militaria" (Brian Coster) tries to sell as original with Zimmerman "20" marks, which also comes with fake papers from Thomas Hoff!" Sorry to see that your RK is not what you thought. People that sell these as genuine should be hung out to dry. Mike

You could well be right SPM. However, unless you know the person that bought this item at the Hermann Historica auction, you could be slurring somebody without any cause. The seller of this item may well have been also the buyer and has simply kept the picture from the auction house. The simple way around this is to ask him for more pictures and if he doesn't supply them ask why!!! Mike

With all due respect Lee ... I wouldn't touch it with a 10' barge pole. If Manions is the seller steer clear. The pictures that are shown there just don't add up to a genuine piece. But sure ..if you like it ... go ahead and waste your money. I know as a serious collector I wouldn't fall for this. Mike

I'd agree with Kapitular mainly because of the size of the cross. The Friedrich August Cross 1st Class is a simular size to the EKI, where as the Brunswick Ernst August Cross 1st Class is a smaller size. There does appear to be, if you look closely an outer ring of the wreath for the Friedrich August Cross in the picture. Mike

Well spotted saschaw You found my deliberate mistake. Of course you are completely correct, #4 is Lippe-Detmold.

Saschaw, I wasn't saying that they were all Reuss bars. Just that my favorite was the Reuss "Ehrenkreuz" 4th Klasse with the Bulgarian Civil Merit Order 5th Class in posts #7 & 8. This bar will go very well with the other Reuss bars and cased awards that I have. Many thanks to you all for your comments. Mike

Yes Steve those distant memories of looking for the "Astroturf" background on Ebay and the forums for sale posts bring back fond times of my early collecting. I blame my craving for all things "Imperial" on that cigar smoking individual (bless him) Yeah, the Reuss NC bar is my favorite too Mike

Thanks Claudio, like you this is the first bar that I have found with the the Ba Landwehr DA mounted. A plus to this is the "Leser" MVO is also mounted in the group. IMHO the best of the MVO's that were crafted. Cheers, Mike

That's really odd Rick, I would have thought this one a "vanity" medal ... Tut tut ...Bad Bavarian. The good news is that the "Astroturf" stuff has now been EPSONised for all to see in close detail. Long live the EPSON :cheers:

A little work on tucking the ring back has been carried out and it looks better for the job done, hanging all level now. I find it strange that the "Kyffh?userbund" medal is placed before the Jubilee Medal and the 20yr Landwehr DA ? Not a busy weekend Rick, just the end of a long sweet deal with a former member who wished to pass his remaining 25 bars with 3 cased awards to a new loving home And yes Stogie you know where they came from and Who passed these onto my seller "Most things have passed through the "Evil Ones" sticky paws at one time or another" :cheers:

Reverse.

The last one is my favorite. It's been shown on here before, but now resides in my Reuss Collection.

Reverse.

The next one is a little out of my collecting field as I'm a little lost on the history of the guy. Some input would be helpful guys. Obverse.

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Next one. A Reuss serving guy with matching ribbon bars that have a KVK that was not added to the original bar. Obverse.