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Not a problem - the only one it offends is a 16th Century knight...

You are too kind - it was only a little article and there are a few things I would have loved to have changed after it was at the pressess - but its still a good article and should open the door for some more people to apreciate the history behind them.

Thanks! That was a feature I had not noticed before. Another piece of the puzzle - as I dont have many of pre-50's medals of the HUPR - can you post measurements of the ribbon width? (as the ribbon is folded and sometimes the dimensions of the tri-fold become obscure the best method is to measure the width of the ribbon - as if it had never been folded) Great information!

what would make the differnce - besides being rare? You mention the ribbon size? It was my impression that almost all of the ribbons are the same size. Help?

IMHO - its a nice post war duplicate that could be bought in many shops after the war - I like these for the history...IE - the Hungarian Red Army of 1919 - solders would hav eworn these types...

Well - I am the last expert on the makers marks for these - I think Hyanu has a grip on those. But for the ribbon - yes that is the correct war ribbon for your Signum Laudis. Though from the scan and judging by the width - its not a ribbon for a trifold (AH style) but rather is probably for an award to another Axis ally - Germany as my guess would be? Any histroy of the ribbon and the medal being together??

Ulstermann - Intersting. As I had informed you the ribbon on this one was the wrong type - but after a trip to the Military Muesum yesterday with the kids - I recognized the ribbon - its for the Sport Medal of 1947 (!!!) A rare addition to be sure

Cant comment 100% on the axe in Coratian history, but in Hungary this type of axe head (small on a stick) is typical of the Hungarian peasants axe - good for cutting up small things and good for bashing in the head of the Turk invaders as well in the 16th Centutry... this small axe image exists still today in commemorative pieces. I have most recently seen one as an award for miners from the Hungarian Peoples Republic (1949-1989) - just some background...

Hi Chris - Yes - its Hungarian - it reads (to my surface translation not 100% exacto-Englsih) - "Comemorating my service time in the "Ovkeny" (Orkeny??)Camp Aug 23, 1909."

On Ebay about 7 years ago when I was looking to get a whole set of EK's (1813-1957) - I kept finding strange anomolies on the 1914 side that when you looked hard enough you could just make out the shaved off parts. More convincing wold be a 1870 cross with parts shaved off one would think as the frames were typiclay the thinner type...

Now you have my curiostity as the case and the star for this one went together and had been that way for some time - I wonder if after 1964 when they started giving out the Morkers Militia Medal for 5 years of serivce if they swithced it to a "good boy" badge. OF course there is so little written about these...anyone out there of our Magyar Nep who were in the Munkasor?

Here is the 5 year "itch" pin. This was a system instiuted before they started handing out the Munkasor Medal - but it seems that later this became more of a "good work" medal as they later qualified for the Armed Forces Service Medals soon after that. Here is a cased one that I used to own and now resides with a fellow collector.

Oooops - yes - there was a civil version - but this is not it....yes correct - for the military during peace time. Still - not that oftern encountered.

and finaly the case lid - its seen a war or two

and the reverse

here is a better shot of the front

Just got this little nice item. Though the war ribbon with swords Signum Laudis medals are one of my favorites to collect, I could not pass up this little gem. Not too often do you find ones that were awarded for civilian use. (red trifold ribbon) The ribbon is starched stiff and looks like it ha been on the medal for quite a long time. Also the extra bonus is the case, which was made in Budpaest, not VIenna like so many that I find.

Interesting phrase - "Lion Coal Miner" 10/15 years of the "Old Guard" - Old Guard was a common name of an old die hard communist from the WW1 period. Later it seems to be an expression to signify one who was diligent and obedient to the work at hand over a long period (in this case 10 and 15 years.) Very Nice!

Yep - it was a very informative visit. I too got some shots - but have yet the time to download them...

Interesting. Its hard to place the period of the photo as the tunic could eitehr be a M45 or the parade version of the M57... The police having sabres are intersting, even today the mounted police who patrol the city park are still armed with sabres while on patrol.

My jump to the Volksdeutcher is that there were a good ammount of Hungarians with German background and I have seen and heard personal testimony where they left Hungary and joined the Wehrmact even after Hungary had enetered the war in the east. Over the last two years at the Military Accademy I have had two students who had grandfathers who were such volunteers. Owing to the fact that after the war anyone with "too much German" in them were sent to Germany - as a result there were several revisions of last names to more 'Hungarian' sounding. Anyhow - back to the photo - as it lacks a Hindenburg Cross also that a German would have probably treated a 'foreign medal' a little differntly - IE ribbon bar, the owner has clearly sewn a loop on the tunic to hang the medal - and beefed it up with the addtion of swords to let folks know he saw combat in WW1 and the fact that its the Hungarian WW1 Service Medal - not an Austriena one - and I got it here...Magyar in the Whermacht.

Magayrok! Its great history because of its geat citizens...

This is a stamp from perhaps one of the most rear tunics that can be found. In round form is a Controll Agency stamp after it left the factory. Then in the larger rectangular stamp is the acceptance stamp of the AVH or the State Secret Police. (The upper portion of the stamp is "AVHKASZ" - AVH Offical. Form the poor quality of the stamps it is hard to figure out the last digitin the year. It appears to be "1951" and as the Controll Agency stamp is of the earlier round design, this may be the fact.

Another of my 1956 Revolution Panzer Tunics - this one has only three of the inspection stamps. The Control Aency stamp is again the rectanlge style and is on the upper right.

Here is one of my 1956 Revolution era tunics and their markings - the Controling Agency stamps are rather washed out - but you can see the other stamps. This particular tunic has four stamps. One stamp is the Control Agency at the lower bottom and rectangular in form marked "HR". One of the others may possibly the facotry and the third may be inventory and the fourth may be a transportation stamp. As I dont have the exact regulations and the Honved Gazette mentions that these stamps "had to comply with those organizations". There is no other source at this time.