Claudio

Hi Dave, I also thought that this bar is too tough too identify; I mean just a HHOX and a Austrian MVK3 is not enough to narrow down the search. Furthermore like you said, because this bar has the DA combination for 18 years, that signifies that this officer went back in service in 30ies, but between 1920 and 1934/36 could have been just a state employee or maybe even not that. It could have been possible to ID if there was one WWI bravery award or small state order on it. But still it's a great medal bar that I would be very interested to have also in my collection. ;-) C

Very much possible... like GFM A. Kesselring he begun his career in the Fussartillerie and also in the twenties he was still an Artillery officer, until 1934 when he went to the Luftwaffe... :-)

Great bar, Tom! As I already commented on the WAF, a text book bar of a Senior LW officer. Too bad that it might be to less in order to identify the wearer, if you don't find a picture of him with this bar. Nothing is impossible... I really love this bars with Imperial enameled bling-bling and long service awards. It tells a lot about the original owner of the bar; a long career beginning with WWI (or even before) and ending during WWII.

Hi Jock, It's quite complicated for me to explain, even more in English... practically there are the discs on the reverse are attached to two rivets and by opening (moving up) the top part, you can then remove the two discs and so fix it to a tunic, that has to have 2 holes in it to fit the rivets. I hope I was clear enough. ciao, Claudio

This is rare...

Hi Greg! I am also more a butt-fetisch than a titts-pervert... Some of mines... I am still looking for a couple EK1 with a special reverse configuration. EKs are always very much fun to collect; a simple cross with a terrific design (created by great German Architect Schinkel) and character that is still very attractive, also 200 years after its creation. Still surpasses with his classy looks 99% of all medals created after it, IMHO... C

One of my favorite marches (also one of uncle Wolf's Lieblingsmärsche... what a coincidence )... Parademarsch Nr. (Möllendorfer), played by her Majesty guards' band... It was played superbly, with a exquisite British twist of course, I must say!

In the background a nice "zackiger" Marsch... "Die Ehrenwache"... weitermachen! ;-)

It doesn't end... yet!!!!

I guess at the museum... I was looking for one of them for a long time and never found one! This very Pickelhaube is no more on display, very likely put away in the Museum archives... hopefully not sold or taken away...

Some of very nice late 19th century stuff... See also General Pickelhaube of the FAR3, own Queen Mary of Bavaria Regiment, Crown Prince Rupprecht Garde Marine Infanterie tunic, King's Ludwig III Uniform as Inhaber of the Bayerisches Jäger-Batallion Nr. 1... where to stop!!!! Aaarghhh.... it's quite impossible...

more... Napoleonic and first half of the 18th century stuff... some of these items might not be on the permanent exhibition, since these pictures were taken in 2009.

Ok, I lied... I found some more old pictures about Ingolstadt on my PC...

mmmh... After all Major a.D. Exner didn't spend the whole war at front, but he could receive a nice array of medals. How on earthdid he get the Chilean medals? It has maybe to do with his Civilian occupation?

Last ones... 1934-1945 period... there was more, also post war, but I didn't take pictures of that part. Enjoy!!!

A newly opened section opened at a separate totally renovated venue (Festung Tilly), about the Bavarian police corps... from late 19th century up to nowadays... Really interesting exhibitions... very well done! Some Municipal police Pickelhauben and uniforms an oil 3/4 portrait of a Hilfspolizist in the early 20ies (I think Oberbayern)

Das Gewehr über! Präsentiert das Gewehr!!!!

For Chris with love... Some partially blank EK Verleihungsurkunden for EKs (last one beautiful: Infanterie-Leibregiment) and a Anerkennungsurkunde for Leutnant August Krempe 13th Bavarian IR (Nr. 178).

Some pictures of the permanent WW1 exhibition across the river (just opposite the castle of Ingolstadt) in the Festung Tilly: Tunic with beautiful hand-embroidery of a 5th Foot Guard's officer (Epaulettes are missing) Some Pickelhauben in very good conditions Infantry Officer Pickelhaube (Königin von Schweden own Leib-Regiment) same as above German (Oberst) and KuK Officer (Oberstleutnant) WWI tunics Detail of KuK Oberstleutnant tunic with medal bar Detail of German Oberst Front field tunic (see the heavy gabardine type of fabric) Named Paletot of a Militär Tapferkeitsmedaille Junior Officer (can't remember the name of the officer, he got the medal as NCO or Fähnrich) Also named Litevka of a Major (can't remember the name, alas)

Iron crosses... I can't comment on the authenticity of the oakleaves, but they look nice in the exhibition... RK EK 1939 mit Eichenlaub, Schwertern und Brillanten (very likely B-type), the RK looks like a Juncker L/12 RK EK 1939 mit Eichenlaub und Schwertern RK EK 1939 mit Eichenlaub (almost mint conditions, also the oakleaves looks like new) RK EK 1939 (almost mint conditions) EK1 + 2 1914 with Wiederholungsspangen 1939 Grand Cross of EK 1914 (Museumanfertigung?) EK2 1870 with oakleaves 25, on combattant and non-combattant ribbons

BMVK1 m. Kr u. Schwertern BMVK1 m. Kr All set of Grand Crosses of the BMVO early tipes (pre-war) BMVK Bavarian medals of valour (Tapferkeitsmedaillen)... Regimental commemorative medals of Bavaria

Stained Glass with official family crest of Crown Prince Rupprecht Stained Glass of Leutnant Ritter von Steiner, Kemmel 15.04.1918 Stained Glass of Hauptmann Ritter von Scheuring, awarded with the RK of MMJO for actions in Longueval in 14.7.1916 Pour le Mérite (2), first Gold pre-1916 type, second silver gilted post 1916 type Different dinastic/religious orders of Bavaria (St. Georg-Orden complete set, etc.) Im treve Fast... Bavarian Order of St. Michael Bavarian Order of St. Michael, Offizierskreuz/Steckkreuz Detail of Bavarian Order of St. Michael (rv) Another type of St. Michael (rv)

Dear forumites, I am posting here also some pictures taken in the castle of Ingolstadt, also because most of the medals there are pre-1918. I might have already posted some of them years ago in another thread, but since the other two threads I started about Burg Hohenzollern (http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/60287-burg-hohenzollern-in-hechingen/ ) in Hechingen and Schloss Lichtenstein ( http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/60383-castle-of-lichtenstein-herzoege-von-wurttemberg/ ) were so appreciated and I have time to post today, I am more than happy to share with you some interesting pictures. Here the official website of the castle in Ingolstadt: http://www.bayerisches-armeemuseum.de/en/buildings/new-castle.html I do go almost go there once a year or every two years... it's a sort of pilgrimage for my brother and myself. Well let's the pictures talk... Tschako of King Ludwig III as commander of the Bavarian 1st Jäger Battalion Prussian Kürassier Officer Helmet of S.K.H Kronprinz von Bayern, Leib-Kürassier-Regiment "Grosser Kurfürst" (Schlesisches) Nr. 1 Detail of a Bavarian Cerimonial Royal Leib-Garde "Hartschier" in parade attire with medal bar ( Bavarian RK of MMJO Medal bar of MKFO wearer Oberst Kurt Ritter von Scherf (with the bestowal of this order he could put the nobiliar denomination of "Ritter von" before his surname) Oil painting portrait of König Max I Josef of Bavaria Set of MMJO (Grand Cross, Breast star and Neck decoration) Again MMJ

Yes, Daniel, if you read my post I wrote so... I still remember the comment on that of poor Rick! The reason I posted here so much is because I wanted especially him to see such beautiful bars, not only to get some info for free, but because I know quite for sure that he really enjoyed it, especially when I could reunite some pieces of a specific group, like in fact v.Mackensen group. I wish he could see this bar... he would have liked it a lot. ... nevertheless, also without EK1, von Mackensen got some really nice orders... It's interesting to notice that the longest medal bars I have in my collection (bars with more than 10 up to 14 orders and medals) are almost from quite anonymes officers ("mere" Hptm up to Oberstleutnants) or officers without any real front experience.

Thanks Dave for your additional information. I also hardly believed that Exner didn't get the EK1. In fact I consider the HHOX a bit a sort of DKiG for officer in WW1. Also PlM-Träger Ernst Jünger got it if after he was awarded the EK1, for example. Furthermore a Battalion commander being all that time at the front and being wounded, it is almost impossible to believe that he didn't got the EK1. Strangely enough however this guy seems not have been awarded with EK1: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/12795-i-am-after-mackensens-mini-chain/?hl=%2Bvon+%2Bmackensen Very likely because he wasn't directly involved at the front, but more as a mere liaison/aide-de-camp Officer. ciao, C