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Well, indeed! It pulled off $510. Have we missed out on a very-very rare ORB? I bet the new owner reads this thread and laughs at us.

Hi Eric. MONDVOR page does NOT cover the variations in serial numbers. It only covers variations in the actual order shapes. Saying that, it is indeed very questionable item, IMO. My initial comment on the other forum about engraving was driven by desire to say, that this unusual number engraving hand is genuine and known on this range of ORB. But on this particular one we have an imitation of this unusual hand, because the whole item looks dodgy.

Here is the citation. This one is an examples when on the way through the approval channels the award was changing, either upgraded or downgraded. Sometimes quite dramatically. I have seen one downgrade from Order of Aleksander Nevsky to medal For Battle Merit. Though in that case the reason was obvious overestimation in original recommendation. Well, here, in case of Kulik's award, the original recommendation was for the Order of Great Patriotic War I class on 29.10.1944. The next day, the first superior, the commander of Waterway Area Defence, approved OGPW1. At the next level the recommendation was downgraded to OGPW II class by vice-admiral Zukov (do not confuse with Georgy Zukov ). But then the award decree #37 from 05.12.1944 has Kulik's name in the list of Red Star awardees. Text of the citation: In the 1944 campaign combat missions he revealed himself as a steadfast warrior. During mine sweeping mission close to the enemy coast on 28-05-1944, the boats were attacked by 30 enemy planes (J-87 and Me-109). In this engagement the machine-gun crew lead by comrade Kulik repelled 4 attacks, forcing the enemy to disorderly drop the bombs in the water with no effect. On 05-06-1944 conducting similar operation the boats were again attacked by enemy aircrafts. In this fight Kulik's crew shot down one J-87. In the landing operations Kulik's crew supported our infantry on the ground by accurate fire. His crew shot and destroyed 13 floating mines during the campaign. For exhibited resolve, gallantry and effective command in the battle recommended for the order of Great Patriotic War I class. signed by the Commander of 11 patrol boat squadron Subcommander Prosyannikov 29 October 1944

Please, meet Petty Officer I class Kulik Stepan Porfir'evich, gunlayer of the AA speedboat CK-418, 11 Patrol Boat Squadron of Waterway Area Defence. Born in 1919, he lived at least until 1985 when he was awarded OGPW2. Awards: Medal "For Battle Merits" # 2552391 , 25.04.1944 Order of "Red Star" # 923968 , 05.12.1944 10 commendations Badge "Excellent gunner" OGPW2 in 1985 Armoured small submarine chaser «БМО», project 194. Main armament is 37mm automatic cannon on the bow, one 45mm cannon and a pair of 12,7mm machine-guns, 10pcs of 120kg and 20kg depth charges. CK-418 was 2nd of 66 total built boats of the project 194. It was set afloat 5.11.1942 and commenced service on 21.06.1943. Kulik's Register Card showing earned awards: Some photographs of the Small Sub Chasers project 194:

Well, the list expands. This is not a ducky-pheasant. It is a dove! Unlike European culture, a dove in Japanese traditional culture is a symbol of war, not peace. A dove (hato) is symbolic animal and messenger of Hachiman - the the syncretic divinity of archery and war and the divine protector of Japan, the Japanese people and the Imperial House, the Minamoto clan ("Genji") and most samurai worshipped him.

I know of 3 symbolic birds in Japanese culture: a crane, a pheasant, a crow. It is definitely not a crane. I hope not! Cranes look much different. Could be a three-legged crow (Yatagarasu). But here the most important attribute - three legs - is nowhere in sight. So I go with duck-looking pheasant.

In Japan the pheasant is a divine messenger for Amaterasu, the great sun goddess. Amaterasu is a focal point of the Shinto pantheon. She is the ruler of the heavens, so her association with the pheasant made this creature an important symbol of power, abundance and promise. Me thinks so.

Very tasteful and nice! Will use it from now. If I may suggest, the magnifying glass should magnify a bit more. To my taste at least.

Latgale guerrilla regiment (Latgales partizanu pulks) was formed of several guerrilla groups operating against the Bolsheviks in northern Latgale. By the autumn of 1919, the number of the regiment reached 1500 people. February 23, 1922 Latgale guerrilla regiment was disbanded and partly converted into a battalion, which was accepted on April 1 2nd Battalion of the 9th Infantry Regiment Rezekne. The badge of the regiment was approved November 10, 1921. It has the form of a Maltese cross covered with black enamel, with 1mm silver edging. At the upper end of the cross - silver "dead head", on the bottom - regiment formation year "1919". In the centre there is the Latvian national emblem (the first version): the rising sun with three five-pointed stars. Between the ends of the cross - crossed swords, 40 mm long. This military unit takes its origins from several guerrilla groups formed in the occupied Bolsheviks Augshkurzeme townships (Upper Kurland). After the retreat of the Red Army scattered guerrilla units were combined into Augshkurzemsky guerrilla regiment on June 13, 1919. June 20, the regiment was included in the Latvian army, and on August 16 converted to the 3rd Battalion of the 3rd Infantry Jelgava regiment.

Wonderful and evocative!

Oh, thanks, TacHel. The pleasure was mine researching this! As you see it is not quite like some other ORBs. The award decree contains 15 recomendations for the HSU! The whole assault team. They all went up approved for HSU all the way from regiment to army council level. But then at the end they all got ORB instead. The regiment itself was one the destinguished ones and also participated in battle of Berlin. The awardee survived the war.

Why? Not round enough?

The 4th grade soldier's St. George cross # 174604 should be app. 1904 for Russia - Japan war. The Russian letters "Ж" stands for Yellow, and "М" for Metal. So if it does not look yellow, it is no right, IMHO.

The rivets on the reverse imply that the frontal elements are presumably reused from real pieces (a "common" practice in low tier jewellery). But take, f.ex. central medallion, it only resembles the common Prussian medal design, but not quite the same. I cannot match it to other Prussian medals. Maybe I am wrong, but I think it is custom made up after medal's design.

Hello, Veljko! I think it is a fantasy piece.

The article was published in March 2014 and the hero was alive then, age 82. This is Google translated so hold on tight to your chair! Noble Shepherd Greeting After Kasiettїї-IB, the charity is a blessed region. After the period during which thrive even more union-lake box and prosperity, and that is true fame. Here dripping with the blood of the umbilical cord, the lives of everyone living in the past to change the model also was happy. We realize that most daўazaluu great man - the Hero of Socialist Labor, depicted on terry Abdraev, could be. During the last century 70 berekelїї district "CEE workshop" of the spheres is one of the leading animal husbandry developed farms used to. And ordinary shepherd, white papers duldu- Lou, the owner of several governmental awards, Kyrgyzstan Greeting Abdraev share valuable as the master of the economy. Let us be the beginning of the speech. 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Yes, please, share his photo. In the mean while I found a whole article about the hero. Are not you in luck today? You just need to lean Kyrgyz language first.

Paul, there is a name on the award certificate: ABDRAEV KUTUBAY. He was born in 1932. So very unlikely to have any WW2 period medals. He was awarded HSUL in Dec 1976 for his work a Senior Shepherd in Sovhoz «Сон-Куль». He could have looked like this.

Can't help smiling...

Slava1stclass puts it well. Sorry to say, but I think, this order is the victim of the "wild" 1990s. The fact that it was purchased in Russia in 1993 strongly supports this case.

Thanks! A bit weird... He wore his award at least once, when his photograph was taken. So the mint condition is too minty... And obviously faked number and erasure signs of the old one. Did you get it in a group? I am thinking why one would fake a number? If we trust the order it self is genuine, then why bother? Only if to fit a document or a group...

Hello, Interesting. Could you post the reverse, please. Gantsev Dmitry Feodorovich (1918 - 1968)

Nothing bits grandpa's relics...

Hey, Sal! Great large group! The Red Star with # 3097xxx could be an interesting one. It might be for the Korean war. Could be interesting to see his papers to understand if he was involved in the Korean war. Or eventually his service record may be requested from archive to shed some light. Could you post it's reverse on the award booklet?

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