Kriegsmarine Admiral

Yes, I saw your post, and I do agree with you. It could be one of the unofficial awards. But you didn't say, is Braunschweig Kriegsverdienstkreuz 1. Klasse out of the question or also possible? The shape looks similar to me. When I was trying to ID Bartenbach's medal bar, on another forum a memeber said one of the medals is the Braunschweig Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse. We can't confirm it with the Rangliste because Bartenbach retired in 1920 and wasn't active again until 1934. So if he recieved the Braunschweig Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse it is also quite possible he recieved the 1.Klasse. The 6th medal was identified as the Braunschweig Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse. After Oldenburg Friedrich August-Kreuz 2. Klasse (partly covered by it) and before Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz.

So, do we all agree it is most likely that the award is the Steckkreuz für Treue Dienste 1st Class from Schaumburg-Lippe? Or... ?

Thank you for your answers guys. What about the Fürstl. Lippisches Kriegsehrenkreuz für Heldenmütige Tat? The thing is, on the photo of Bartenbach I can't see the Laurel wreath (Lorbeerkranz) that is on the Lippe award?

Thank you very much! The unknown ribbon you left out is the Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) 2. Klasse ohne Schwertern I'm pretty sure. How sure are you about the 3 ribbons you identified (can I put these awards in my awards list for Lorey)? And also do you think the Liakat and Imtiaz medals are more likely to be the Silver versions instead of Gold (the Gold versions were pretty hard to get)?

Do you have any ideas? Do you at least agree with my identifications?

I'm sorry but this is the best I can do. I think the ribbons are visible good enough.

Anyone?

What is this award? Braunschweig Kriegsverdienstkreuz 1. Klasse or Mecklenburg-Schwerin Militärverdienstkreuz 1. Klasse? Or something else? Thanks!

Can you help me identify the awards of Hermann Lorey from his ribbon bar? This is his list of awards I managed to find: Königl. Preuss. Kaiser Wilhelm-Erinnerungsmedaille 1797-1897 Kolonialdenkmünze mit Spange „Venezuela 1902/03“ Königl. Preuss. Roter Adler-Orden 4. Klasse 1914 EK 2. Klasse 1914 EK 1. Klasse Kaiserl. Türkischer Osmanje-Orden 4. Klasse Kaiserl. Türkischer Medschidiè-Orden 4. Klasse mit Säbeln Kaiserl. Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond Königl. Preuss. Dienstauszeichnungskreuz Marineverwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz (1918) Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) 2. Klasse ohne Schwertern Now his ribbon bar: - 1914 EK 2. Klasse - Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer ??? - Königl. Preuss. Roter Adler-Orden 4. Klasse ??? - Kolonialdenkmünze mit Spange „Venezuela 1902/03“ ??? - Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) 2. Klasse ohne Schwertern ??? - Königl. Preuss. Dienstauszeichnungskreuz ??? - Treue Dienst Ehrenzeichen 1. Stufe 40 Jahre ??? - Königl. Preuss. Kaiser Wilhelm-Erinnerungsmedaille 1797-1897 ??? - ??? - ??? - ??? - Kaiserl. Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond ??? - Kaiserl. Türkischer Osmanje-Orden 4. Klasse ???

I found our man Vizeadmiral Walter Engelhardt On the 2nd photo below you can see he wears the Kommandeurkreuz 2. Klasse des Dannebrogorden, and Engelhardt recieved this award (source Rangliste 1914)

Thank you, I have the 3 volumes of Deutschlands Admirale with photos inside so I might find something there. The thing is, an Admiral could have been awarded the Gallipoli Star even if he didn't serve in Turkey. Otherwise it would be easy to find a Vizeadmiral that served in Turkey during WW1.

Does anyone know who this Vizeadmiral might be. Previously I thought he was Wilhelm Souchon but looking at his sleeve insignia, he is clearly a Vizeadmiral and Souchon was an Admiral (promoted in 1918 and this photo was taken in 1936). And also he looks much taller and fatter than Souchon (see 2nd and 3rd photo of Souchon below for comparison). He also wears the Gallipoli Star, so it might help with the identification. Thanks.

Can we try and ID his ribbon bar awards? And what does he wear around the neck?

Yes, the second to last medal seems to be the Order of the Zähringer Lion.

Here is a full photo of Schlegel's medal bar with all medals visible. Can we ID this medal bar too? Is the last medal Bulgarian or some other?

Who is this?

Thank you guys! One question for Dave, how can you tell the difference between the 4th and 3rd Class of the Crown Order? And the last few medals are very blurry on his medal bar. Did you perhaps already know all of his decorations or were you able to ID them now from his ribbon/medal bar? If so, props to you! And if the last ribbon is the Bulgarian Military Bravery Order, what class does the crown represent? And am I correct in saying that around the neck he is wearing the Merit Cross 1st Class for Services to the Red Cross with War Decoration (Austria-Hungary)?

I'm sorry, what do you mean with "SEHO" and "MBO"?

Did anyone try to ID Schlegel's awards from his medal bar? I found another photo with his ribbon bar... Let's try and ID his awards: Around the neck: - Merit Cross 1st Class for Services to the Red Cross with War Decoration (Austria-Hungary) ??? Medal bar: - Iron Cross (1914) 2nd Class - Prussian Order of the Red Eagle 4th Class ??? - Prussian Order of the Crown 4th Class ??? - Prussian Red Cross Medal 2nd Class ??? - Prussian Long Service Cross ??? - ??? - South West Africa Medal in Steel ??? - Prussian Centenary Medal 1897 ??? - Bavarian Military Merit Order 4th Class with Swords ??? The rest can't be seen on the medal bar... It's too blurry. Ribbon bar: - Iron Cross (1914) 2nd Class - Prussian Order of the Red Eagle 4th Class ??? - Prussian Order of the Crown 4th Class ??? - Prussian Red Cross Medal 2nd Class ??? - South West Africa Medal in Steel ??? - Prussian Long Service Cross ??? - Bavarian Military Merit Order 4th Class with Swords ??? - ??? - Something with Crown (perhaps foreign) ??? - ??? - ??? (again some sort of device) I guess he isn't listed in the Rank Lists?

Thank you! Do you know what is the class of the Red Cross decoration? And the Social Welfare Decoration then isn't on his ribbon bar? Only the breast decoration?

Can someone please help me with the awards of following officers that are listed in the Reichsmarine Ranglisten? Could you be kind enough and share the screenshots of their enteries in the Rangliste? Marinegeneralarzt Dr. med. Ernst Böse (1922 Rangliste) Franz Claassen (1928 Rangliste) Victor Praefcke (1922 Rangliste) Wilhelm Wilke (1922 Rangliste) Erich Heyden (1928 Rangliste) (Ing.) Friedrich Hilbig (1922 Rangliste) Many thanks in advance!

To me he looks like Wilhelm von Lans? And notice the same award on the 2nd photo, and the one I posted first.

Great ribbon bar! Can someone please ID the 3rd ribbon in the first row and last ribbon in the second row? Thanks.

Who are these Pour le mérite holders? Especially the Admiral?

What is the class of his Chilean award?