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I always wondered how the jewelers of these got that red enamel inside the crown? Very effective design in its outcome appearance

Just a very general observation and thus not a "solution" per se to the original question. The presence of the fine case helps. In general, Bulgarian, like Serbian orders, were mostly made in Austria in the imperial period, many without hallmarks. And since I collect orders from different European nations, I have even noticed variations in scale and design among normally exacting German states orders, depending on jeweler.

There is a very expensive thick book with color photos that lists field marshals' batons. I will have to look up its title.

The things I noticed were lack of crispness and b) newness of the ribbon. Probably the result of a cast non original replica intended to mislead buyers.

good answer thus in the picture that Japanx sent, the top one is false replica and the bottom picture true version?

You both have good eyes. How does one tell that they are fake? I BELIEVE you I just wish to learn more on how to detect.

Points well taken. Look at the suspension ring. Is there a 56 for 14K? This one looks to be gilded bronze which would have been made WWI era. I am making an assumption. Also always look at the detail in the center of the "nun" and see that it was hastily painted which could have gone on in wartime when they had to manufacture more of these. Always look for gold versions, preferably before say 1910, for an instance. When photographing, place a quarter next to the medals or a ruler, as the third and fourth class seem to be somewhat close in size. Just some additional ideas....

Yes. The oval kokoshnik mark is of a female head facing left with a folkloric headdress and the fineness of the metal in zolotniki and the Cyrillic letters/initials of the assayer. It was made between 1896 and 1908. Maker is Adolf Sper. What is your item?

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thanks immensely

Fascinating and well tuned reply here. thanks. My supplemental thoughts. First of all, I would like to see that "familiar photo" on the steps of the Reichstag. 2. Paintings and furniture and fine art I can see they would immediately value, but it seems phaleristics and fine medal collecting did not emerge into its own as a recognized collectible til perhaps later in time?? And here is a fascinating question: did some higher level medals of royal and noble houses travel with their owners in exodus to the neutral states of Europe during both WWI and WWII? (for instance, to Sweden, Portugal, Spain and Switzerland, realizing that not the same exact nations were neutral in both wars, but there is some overlap with those named above.) So a parallel question: did fine orders of decoration and high level ones migrate to the neutral nations of Europe during WWI and WWII? And by that I ALSO mean fine orders from any number of originating order of decoration-issuing nations during those two conflicts.

I have often wondered if those looking across Germany for imperial era orders of decoration over the last thirty years, do they have more success looking in the Eastern half of the unified Germany than the western side?? In other words were more orders found in the large eastern cities such as Leipzig and others (including smaller cities, towns and villages)? This thought has entered my mind. Were many such items to be found there in comparison, more or less?

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I do know that Europe-wide, full metal breast stars started coming into prominent vogue around 1 1860

I did purchase a circa 1910 Order of Bath GC in person and it thankfully came with the sash. But the breast star, case and certificate were nowhere to be found. How often does one also encounter documents and certificates, anecodatlly speaking?

What is the gram weight of it without ribbon as I may have some info that could help

Hi, does anyone have numbers of how many FIRST CLASS PINBACK war merit crosses were awarded during WWI in each state? I notice some are much more costly than others. I bought two of these today, the Brunswick War Merit Cross 1 Class and the Oldenburg Friedrich August Cross 1 Class and wonder about those two, first off, as I am adding them to my inventory list. Thanks in advance for info.

Thanks very much

I have my payment en route for a jawless style lionhead Prussian officer sword which on a langet has the lances of a Lancer group. I always thought of the lancers as light cavalry but there are some other motifs on the sword hilt that show cannonballs. For instance, instead of a Pantherhead quillon it has a cannonball quillon. There is another scene on the hilt that displays cannons but NOT on the langets. They have the typical lancers logo. Is that contradictory? How do I tell the difference also between this and a Hussar sword? Also, as an aside, it has in scroll work boldly Eisenauer. that is in gothic style print. Does that mean that this is a Damascus blade? Is that implied

thanks, I appreciate it I still like studying the following medal bar even though it is part military and part civil/diplomatic

Is this one likely Leser or Weiss & Co. manufacture?

I have a still connected set that states: Albin Kuhlfedler Offenbach Kaiserstr. 63 13.9.77 1.K.Arm.B. 166 N. 314 can anyone shed light on this for me?

I do also notice the mustache is not upturned like the Kaiser's style so this may have represented another field marshal? Kaiser Wilhelm even in young age had his mustache ends somewhat upturned unlike in this bronze depiction. The interesting thing is that it is detailed in every other manner so I do not think the mustache style is a "mistake."

Another clue is the Order of the Black Eagle chain/collar. Does that help narrow it down to someone? Was that awarded to other field marshals too?? On the face of the round epaulette are three equidistant symbols that I cannot discern.