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Hello, at the PlM I always pick up the Lehmann (1740 - 1913 in chronological order) or the Möller (1914-1918 in alphabetical order. These books are very rare.The Lehmann is online, the Möller unfortunately not. I once copied the numbers from the Möller and attached the link to the Lehmann below for those interested. Best regards Walter. http://gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/toc/?PPN=PPN135808596&IDDOC=287805

Hello Martin At the higher levels, you should be extra careful. MVK 1 with crown and swords is very often forged. An original of Leser you can see in my post above. Exactly so an original must look by Leser. Other versions of Leser are not original. Regards Walter

Super, Danke.

... The decoration of the order consists of officers or civil servants in the officer rank, as well as those "Hof und Staatsdiener" as well as clergymen who have the rank of a golden cross of honor, for members of lower rank from a "Goldenen Ehrenmünze". @ Chris: Vielleicht kannst Du diese Übersetzung korrigieren. Da wird es für mich, mit meinem schlechten Englisch, schon sehr mühsam. Gruß Walter

Servus, wanted to introduce my Christmas present here too. It is the honorary coin of the Bavarian Ludwigsorden. She was in receipt of a return, which is why she does not turn up often. Best regards Walter

Yes, the processing of the awards took a very long time

Hello, the medal was donated to commemorate the hundredth birthday of Emperor Wilhelm I. The circle of people was relatively large. It was awarded u.a. to all persons of the active army and the active navy, members of the protection troops and also to veterans of the wars 1864, 1866 and 1870/71. The award number should be well over one million medals. I hope, that helps you a bit. Best regards Walter

I would like to come back to Ferdinand Schörner. At the end he lived impoverished in a nursing home in Munich / Nymphenburg. I knew a postman from my neighborhood who always brought him the mail. After Schörners death, his son inherited everything. Whether there was really anything that was auctioned at the auction house, came from his direct possession / heritage, I doubt it. Every time a known name comes into play, it capitalizes on it. Some awards often appear several times in different ways. As already mentioned in a post, the principle still applies, buy only the medal and not the story. Was Schörner's Medal Bar really worth the money?.... I dont know, but i have a guess. Best regards Walter

I mean, that it is the same. Greeting Walter

In the 5th position, a Bavarian MVK 1st or 2nd form would fit without swords. MVKs or MVOs had to be returned after death. This could be the reason that it no longer exists. The SW Africa medal is made of steel for non-combatants (please do not clean, but preserve). The condition is relatively good As an example, I have attached 2 pictures. The first shows a first form VS / RS without swords. On the second one you see a first class VS and RS without swords and a second class with swords. In the first form, the MVK has been only one class. Best regards Walter

Servus Andreas, Ordenskanzlei verstehe ich nicht. Die gab es doch erst nach 1918. Es müsste wohl Kgl. Bayerisches Kriegsministerium heißen, oder irre ich mich da? Gruß Walter

I have estates where the TM was not mounted on the medal bar at all. These medal bars are always made after 1918 Unfortunately, I have almost no pictures that I can publish. Andreas (Spolei) certainly has several of them.

Thanks @ Chris: If I understand you correctly with my bad English, do you want to know dates of the postwar association of the Order of the Bavarian Medal for Bravery? (The medal for the bravery was not a order, but they called themselves after the war ....)

Here is a medal bar from a bearer of the Bavarian Golden Medal for Bravery Another medal bar with a Bavarian Golden Medal for bravery And for now the last medal bar of a Bavarian Golden Medal for Bravery

Beautiful Medal Bar. The manufacturer of the MVK 3 X was Lauer. Best regards Walter

Both MVKs are pieces from the awarding period. The first is from Deschler, the second is from Lauer. At the second, the back would be interesting. Best regards Walter

Great, a really special medal bar.

It really is a beautiful medal bar. Also note the quality of the MVK. The originals all have a real golden front-medallion. The only manufacturers were Leser and Hemmerle.

@ Chris, Ein Soldat aus dem Mannschaftsstand mit Tapferkeitsmedaille, der 1849, 1866 und 1870/71 mit dabei war und seine anrechenbare Dienstzeit über 40 Jahre war. Nach dem Ausscheiden aus dem Militärdienst bekam er wohl dann noch die Zivilverdienstmedaille. Kann man auch in meinem Buch nachlesen. Sh auch hier:

I'll show you a nice medal bar right away. In this are several interesting things noteworthy. But see for yourself. Greeting Walter

The bearer was Joseph Koch, paymaster of the 1st Foot Artillery Regiment. The special feature is the MVK 1. Classse Krone and Schwerter, one of the few originals, ca. 150 awards in total.

Vielen Dank. @Chris, ja den Nachlass meinte ich. Viele Grüße Walter

Servus, I would not rely on the contents of these books. There are many mistakes inside. I would not buy it today. Greeting Walter

I agree with that. I do not like the other pieces. Greeting Walter