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    Komtur

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    1. I know that, today I searched 70 pages of the Reichs 1918 . Lots of similar combinations but none fits exatly. The clue will be (PrEK2w)(PrVKfKrh)(PrRKM3)(PrRA4)(PrKOr4)(PrLD2), that could be unique. Unfortunately the "50" isn?t mentioned there. When I did not find him there, I have to go to the Prussian Hof und Staat 1918. Then I need help (Daniel? PaulC, ) because I haven?t this one. Best regards, Komtur.
    2. This is a fine example of a pure Prussian order bar. In my opinion it must be a Beamter, after serving in the 1866 war changing from military to civil service. Sometimes I will do my homework and search the "Handbuch f?r das Deutsche Reich 1918" for him. Greetings, Komtur.
    3. Thanks for the information! Nice items to be found there, but I could not find this group may be it is sold... @Glenn As always great details, thank you. Komtur.
    4. Yes, it is the same source. The PlM group goes through the hands of the same person, I?ve got the chain from. Unfortunately on this time I did not know him Can you tell me detailed, where this group is to be find now? With regards, Komtur.
    5. So it was not very difficult to find the owner: the later Generalleutnant z.D. Egon von Vollard-Bockelberg (see his entry in the DOA 1908/09) He must has worn this chain between 1893 and 1898 (see his entry in this ranklists, I?ve got no other between)
    6. I got this mini chain with the information, it cames directly from a familiy "von Bockelsberg"
    7. I feel responsible for some confusion when I went mixed up the Prussian Kleindekorationen, when there was a question about miniature devices on ribbon bars. I do not know much about the last ones, but I think, they were nonofficial. The Kleindekorationen were official decorations, but the persons with the "normal size decorations" had to buy them private. The Kaiser decided in that way in January 1914 and instructed the General-Ordenskommission to inform all persons, wich got up to that time the Black Eagle Order, the grand cross or 1st class REO, the Crown Order 1st class and the Order of the Prussian Crown that they are allowed to wear these decorations in a special small size. There were samples of these Kleindekorations made by Godet. All the above mentioned persons got a written information with a picture of the Godet sample and with a sketch how to wear the decoration. All these Kleindekoration are very rare, because there was only a time of four years for Imperial Germany left. In this time of war it was political correct to wear the plain EK on the uniform, but not the shiny small decorations. Additionaly only the persons with the highest classes of the prussian orders were allowed to wear these Kleindekorationen and that were only few in comparison to the mass of war decorations of that time. And the last point was the price. It must have been a little fortune and not everyone could afford that or want to spend money for that glitter in war times. (information and pics from Henning Volle in Orden&Militaria Journal 43/1981) With regards, Komtur.
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