Richard Gordon

Now, that's a bit naughty!!! I would assume Pinochet and Franco were great buddies.

John Great group and interesting idea on the calendar. Would we collectively be able to fill for all 12 months?? Rich

Interesting subject and one that will raise stirring debate. I read with interest, the conservative view. As the conservatives of Spain are mostly pro-Franco,no wonder when the bill speaks of they come up with crap like Umm, what they are really saying is they want all connections to Franco left in place. You can still see such connections in Spain today. In Conservative areas, such as Salamanca, you can still see the Falange symbol on buildings and references to Franco in street-names. They also have a relief of his head in the Plaza Mayor which is continuously being vandalised and subsequently repaired. It would be interesting for our Spanish members to give their view point. Rich

As not all my pieces are cased, I like to group them into representations of how they would be worn on the tunic, etc. For this particular display, I wanted to represent a fighter pilot veteran of the Spanish Civil war. I have mounted these on a cardboard back which has been covered in black velvet. Then this is mounted in a shadow box and hung in my war room. Rich

I got my favourite pilot badges together for a group photo. It's difficult for my camera to take a picture like this and get focus on everything. Anyway, this was the outcome. Do you have a groupie pic you'd like to add? Rich

John, any sign of similar marks on the back? I suspect the marks around the jaw are from where it was clamped in place so the offending swastika could be broken off. Rich

David Thanks for your in-sight and references. I looked them up and found it more akin to the Ek1 featured on page 151. It even appears to have similar uneven-ness of the flange! Rich

I have seen a few of these posted over the years but not that many so thought it might generate and interesting discussion. Unmarked but utilising a similar hinge and pin to Heer/WSS combat badges often displaying the mark like ??. I understand this mark is often attributed to Wernstein or Wurster? Anyway, here it is. Now the interesting part...look at the flange on the right. Not quite the same width as the rest of the frame. No, it's not an optical illusion! What can you tell me about these EK1's? Rich

I agree, absolutely no reason to apologise. I've been there too and learnt the hard way. I had the flock EK1, flock EK1 spange, fake L/63 gold wound badge and the incorrect A.S. bronze tank assault. Lessons all well learnt. Rich

George I hope you are are happy with the cross. It's your collection and if you're happy with it, then that's all that counts. I don't believe there is anything else to show other than how a real Deschler looks. Rich

Comparing yours with those above, do you still think yours is an original Deschler?

Well for a start look at the numerals and position of the date... They are not the same and it sits too low, touching the frame. The swastika is too pronounced... Deschlers are very low and below the height of the frame. Why don't you post a full, in focus, photo of the back of your cross?

GMU I do not believe that the EK1 you posted is a genuine Deschler. Rich

My only example (that I know of!) marked '1'

Ahhh! The Early Juncker and Deumer. Each beauties in their own right. You really have to be lucky to find to Deumers though!

Well done, Eric! I know how hard these are to find. Man, you need to get those photos sorted!! Rich

Show more! More!! Any information on the recipient? Rich

Maybe swords?

Damn! I left my two EK2 spangen together and looked what happened! Another one appeared!!

David I believe this is the type of spange that it is trying to be. Rich

Eric Very nice condition P/O. I hope you can photograph it better to show it in it's true light then it would look fabulous like this... Rich

Damn, Eric! Next time I'm going to make it a lot harder!!

Can you identify the maker from this? I'll add another clue later...

Well, done we get the answer?

I'm thinking Zimmermann (20;L/52) but I don't have mine handly to confirm. Rich