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    1. 07.11.1914 Königlich Sächsischer Militär-St. Heinrichs-Orden, Ritterkreuz 15.10.1915 Königlich Sächsischer Verdienst-Orden, Komturkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern 01.11.1916 Königlich Sächsischer Albrechts-Orden, Komturkreuz 1. Klasse mit Schwertern 24.10.1917 Königlich Sächsischer Militär-St. Heinrichs-Orden, Komturkreuz 2. Klasse 26.09.1914 Königlich Preußisches Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse 31.12.1914 Königlich Preußisches Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse 24.03.1917 Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden 2. Klasse mit Schwertern 26.09.1917 Großherzoglich Mecklenburg-Schwerinsches Militärverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse 10.08.1915 Herzoglich Braunschweigisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse 12.04.1917 Fürstlich Schaumburg-Lippisches Kreuz für Treue Dienste 1914 31.10.1915 K.u.k. Österreich-Ungarisches Militärverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse mit der Kriegsdekoration 2. Klasse
    2. Regarding the other as yet unidentified Lts.d.R. Hansen, there were two in the GRSB (Edwin and Harald) and two in IR 163, so narrowing them down may not be possible. I have no idea about IR 464. It was formed by contributions from many IX.AK units (IR 84, IR 85, FR 86, GR 89, IR 162, IR 163, RIR 31, RIR 86) so there may be too many possibilities.
    3. Lt.d.R. Hugo Andreas Hansen, born on 4.3.1892 in Flensburg, was killed in action on 30.10.1918 by Amerval with 12./RIR 64. He's the only Lt. Hansen I came across in the regimental history, so that would appear to make him the one who received the HOH3X on 9.10.1918.
    4. I wonder if the triangular part at the top was meant to go through a button-hole or something similar.
    5. I don't know if he's already been found, but the Hauptmann Lehmann in RIR 7 who received the HOH3X in January 1917 was Kurt, *1.4.1875 in Cottbus; Hauptmann, IR 154 (Pat. 1.10.12), 18.8.18 Major, 1918 in Gefangenschaft als Kdr. I./RIR 7. RIR 7 was a Tochterformation of GR 7 and IR 154, which were both in the 18. Infanterie-Brigade. Kurt Lehmann entered IR 14 as a Portepée-Fähnrich on 15.12.1894, so he also had the Centenary and likely received the Dienstauszeichnungskreuz after returning from captivity. No other known Landesorden for this Prussian officer in Prussian regiments. Since it's a common name, not to be confused with Hptm. Kurt Lehmann from IR 59 or Hptm. Curt Lehmann from FAR 5.
    6. Even when I'm in Karlsruhe, it's not a 10-minute trip. I usually end up staying at the Ibis in Durlach. Finding a parking place near the archives takes a little time, as well.
    7. Bingel is Otto Hermann Karl Gustav Josef, *6.9.1869 in Lollar, Gießen, †9.9.1943 in Berlin-Charlottenburg. He was a Fürstlich Solms-Braunfels'scher Rentmeister. There are familial connections between the then-Fürst and Italy (his wife and mother), which might explain the JK5. No connection to any of the other decorations seems apparent. I have nothing on Richert other than that in the 1911 ranklist of reserve/Landwehr officers, he is listed as a Gefängnis-Inspektionsassistent in Charlottenburg. No Richert with that occupation is listed in the 1914 and 1915 Berlin address books; the closest is Albert Richert, listed as a Polizeibeamter.
    8. Miethner and Sichler both received the HOH3X. Maybe, as suggested above, there are Navy candidates. Otherwise, a recalled a.D. officer who might be hard to find if he received the foreign orders after leaving the Army. As for the war decorations, Oldenburg and Braunschweig may point to a X. Armeekorps connection.
    9. It's not Koßmann. He is listed with the EK1, LD1 and Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz in the 1918 Handbuch für das deutsche Reich.
    10. Range, Johann Friedrich Heinrich *1.10.1887 in Barth, Franzburg †12.3.1945 in Stolp in Pommern xx.12.1914 leicht verwundet bei Carlepont als Offz.-Stellv., 8./GR 89 27.1.1915 Lt.d.R. (Rostock) d. GR 89 31.12.1915 Komp.Offz., 8./GR 89 (laut Stellenbesetzung) 01.7.1916 Komp.Fhr., 10./GR 89 (laut Stellenbesetzung) 23.7.1916 Komp.Fhr., 12./GR 89 (laut Stellenbesetzung) xx.xx.1917 schwer verwundet (VL 975/29.10.17) 10.1.1918 nicht in der GR 89 Stellenbesetzung, vermutlich noch beurlaubt wegen Verwundung 10.7.1918 Komp.Fhr., 6./GR 89 (laut Stellenbesetzung) 4.6.1918 verheiratet mit Maria Anna Karoline, geb. Klissing, *7.5.1886 in Barth 19.7.1915 Ghzgl. Meckl.-Strelitzsches Kreuz für Auszeichnung im Kriege 25.1.1917 Ghzgl. Meckl.-Schwerinsches Militärverdienstkreuz 2. Kl. (Tag der Veröffentlichung im Regierungsblatt) 16.08.1917 Ghzgl. Meckl.-Schwerinsches Militärverdienstkreuz 1. Kl. (Tag der Veröffentlichung im Regierungsblatt) 8.11.1917 Kgl. Preußischer Hausorden von Hohenzollern, Ritterkreuz mit Schwertern The 1919 Mecklenburg Census lists one son, born in 1919. There may have been other children later.
    11. It seems likely. The Determann who received the HOH3X on 28.10.1918 was with GGR 2. Hans is listed as the Nachrichtenoffizier of the III. Bataillon of RIR 259 in the last Stellenbesetzung of 25.5.1918. When RIR 259 was dissolved in August 1918, its men were allocated among the regiments of the 2. Garde-Infanterie-Division. Although the III. Bataillon went mostly to GGR 1, the GGR 2 regimental history places Determann with 2./GGR 2 (Komp.Offizier and stellv. Komp.Führer) in September 1918. Determann, Hans Heinrich Erich *27.8.1892 in Hannover, †26.4.1969 in Bad Sachsa His brother Karl died of typhus on 6.4.1917 as an Oberarzt d.R. in Landwehr-Feldlazarett Nr. 10
    12. Preißler, Otto Adolf Hermann *17.3.1892 in Ricklingen, Linden †10.10.1959 in Garmisch-Partenkirchen HOH3X on 27.9.1918 as a Lt.d.R. in Kürassier-Regiment Nr. 5, though he is listed there as "Preisler." According to the casualty list, he was Führer of the 2. M.G.-Eskadron of KR 5. The 1929 Charlottenburg Eheregister gives his occupation as "akademischer Maler." His BAMA Personalakte lists his final rank as Oberstleutnant (Heer), but as he was not an active officer in the 1938/39 Stellenbesetzungen, I don't know if he was z.V. or d.R.
    13. Aschoff, Albrecht Ludwig Wilhelm *11.4.1899 in Berlin †11.8.1972 in Bad Neuenahr 1930 Dr.jur. 30.09.1917 Leutnant, vorläufig ohne Patent * 01.10.1934 Hauptmann mit RDA vom 01.06.1934 (75) 01.02.1940 Major (86) 01.02.1942 Oberstleutnant (30) 01.06.1943 Oberst * He still didn't have a Patent as of the 1919 Dienstaltersliste, so I don't know what his final Patent may have ended up being. He commanded the II. Abteilung of Artillerie-Regiment 76 in Operation Barbarossa. He was taken prisoner in May 1943 while serving as Chef des Deutschen Wirtschaftstabes beim Oberbefehlshaber Tunisien. Known decorations: 26.10.1917 1914 Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse 20.11.1917 Fürstlich Lippisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz 10.04.1919 1914 Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse xx.xx.1935 Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer 02.10.1936 Wehrmacht (Heer) Dienstauszeichnung 4. Klasse xx.xx.19xx 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuze 2. Klasse xx.xx.19xx 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuze 1. Klasse xx.xx.1942 Medaille "Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42" xx.xx.19xx Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern xx.xx.19xx Kriegsverdienstkreuz 1. Klasse mit Schwertern xx.xx.19xx Allgemeines Sturmabzeichen 19.08.1941 Nennung im Ehrenblatt des Deutschen Heeres 25.05.1942 Deutsches Kreuz in Gold Also maybe one or more Italian awards.
    14. I would imagine the EK2w was awarded relatively early in the war, say 1915. One of the main reasons for the creation of the Verdienstkreuz für Kriegshilfe is that the Prussians thought the value of the EK2w was being diminished by too many awards for Heimatverdienst. This would have entailed tearing up his pre-war ribbon bar, adding the EK2w and likely removing the Belgian order. By 1917, when given the choice of adding additional awards, perhaps rather than tear apart his existing large trapezoidal bar, he had a ribbon bar made with the now more in-style shorter ribbons. Here, by the way, is an example of a wartime ribbon bar never upgraded with later wartime awards:
    15. Revisiting this topic several years later to add some new information as more sources have become available since the passing of gurus like George and Rick. I've no idea where the ribbon bar ended up, but perhaps its owner will appreciate the additions. First, one clarification: Hofrat Trzeciok was Eduard Gregor, born in 1869. He was the father of Dr. Eduard Hermann Trzeciok, born in 1901, who received his doctorate in 1924 and was the wissenschaftlicher Hilfsarbeiter in the later Berlin address books. So not technically a "Junior" but still his son. I've no idea the fate of the father. Trzeciok received permission to wear the GSF3b on 8.9.1911 and permission to wear the Officer's Cross of the Belgian Leopold Order on 8.11.1913. That award didn't make the ribbon bar since by that point Belgium was the enemy. Besides the Saxon Kriegsverdienstkreuz noted in the 1918 Court and State entry above, he also received later in 1918 the Anhalt Friedrichkreuz am grün-weißen Bande. I also have a note that he received the Württemberg Wilhelmskreuz mit Schwertern, but I can't find my source for that.
    16. Not the greatest quality photos, but three versions here: ribbon bow, button-hole ribbon and medal bar. Gerhard Triepel, genannt Schulze (1883-1974)
    17. Gottfried Rommel, born on 2 October 1878 in Grunbach, Schorndorf, died of wounds on 30 September 1918. According to the Militär-Kabinett, the HOH3X was awarded on 8.10.1918. His death was apparently not confirmed until 1919, so the award, even though posthumous, appears to have gone through. He was commissioned a Leutnant der Landwehr-Infanterie I. Aufgebot on 30.10.1914 and received the WF3bX on 22.8.1916.
    18. Tiedemann from RFAR 3 should be Eberhard, 18.10.1913 Lt.d.R. (VI Berlin) d. FAR 38. He was wounded in 1915 as Adjutant of I./RFAR 3. That Abteilung was formed on mobilization by FAR 38. He was born in Breslau. Given the Berlin and Breslau connection, he may be Rechtsanwalt und Notar Paul Hermann Eberhard Tiedemann, *15.8.1882 in Breslau, †3.10.1941 in Berlin, although 31 seems a bit old for a newly commissioned Lt.d.R.
    19. According to the Mitteilungen of the IR 47 Offizierverein, Rudolf Hachmann, previously in IR 418, was Führer I./IR 398 from June 1917 on, then went to Ers./FR 37 in November 1918, so his mid-1918 HOH3X should be with IR 398. Below is what information I have on some other IR 418 HOH3X-Träger: Büttner, Karl Emil Julius Max, *6.4.1875 in Guben; als Portepée-Fähnrich in das GR 12 eingetreten, 18.6.95 ausgeschieden, 20.5.96 als Portepée-Fähnrich in das IR 59 wieder eingetreten, 17.4.97 Sek.Lt. im IR 59, 1898 in das IR 111 versetzt, 18.5.07 Oberleutnant, 27.1.13 Hauptmann, in das IR 173 versetzt, 1914 leicht verwundet als Chef der 2./IR 173, 1916 schwer verwundet als Chef der 2./173, 1917-18 Kommandeur des I./IR 418, September 1918 nach der Auflösung des IR 418 in das IR 116 versetzt, 1918 verwundet als Chef der 9./IR 116, Major a.D.; HOH3X, Cent, BZ3bE, BadRJM Heizmann, Josef, *18.1.1894 in Bleibach, Waldkirch in Baden; 1916-18 Adjutant des I./IR 418, nach der Auflösung des Regiments am 15.9.18 kam das I./IR 418 zur 25. ID und Lt.d.R. Heizmann wurde in das LGIR 115 versetzt, am 20.10.18 vermißt, zur Zeit in der 10./IR 117; HOH3X (30.9.18), BZ3bX (10.5.16). - He's not in the Ehrenmal, so he was likely taken prisoner in October 1918. He's probably the 20.3.15 Lt.d.R. (Freiburg) mit Pat. v. 22.3.15 in LIR 72, but I'm not certain. Kammenhuber, Karl, *3.3.1889 in Dörrwiesmühle, Urweiler, St. Wendel; 1914 verwundet als Einjährig-Freiwilliger, FR 80, 6.11.15 Lt.d.R. (St. Wendel) im LIR 118, 1917-18 Führer der 3.MGK/IR 418, 1935 Landgerichtsrat in Saarbrücken, 1940 Oberlandesgerichtsrat in Heidelberg; HOH3X (30.9.18). Storz, Wilhelm, *2.1.1897 in Gnesen; 24.9.14 in das IR 47 eingetreten, 8.5.15 Fähnrich, 18.8.15 Leutnant, vorläufig ohne Patent (Patent 19.12.15), 23.9.16-19.3.18 im IR 418 (Fhr. 7./IR 418), 19.3.18 schwer verwundet, Leutnant a.D., 1.11.22 Dr.jur. et rer.pol. (Göttingen), Landgerichtsrat in den 1940, 1950 und 1960 Hannover Adressbücher. - There was a Kriegsverwaltungsabteilungschef Dr. Storz in the Militärverwaltung Frankreich in World War II, which may be him. Storz only lists the HOH3X and Verwundetenabzeichen in schwarz among his awards. However, IR 418's Esatzformation was IR 116, and when it was dissolved it was absorbed by the 25.ID and 25.RD, so there's a Großherzoglich Hessen connection which makes the HT a possibility for other IR 418 officers. Two companies of the I. Bataillon came from IR 76, so it is also possible that Büttner and Heizmann received the Hamburg Hanseatenkreuz.
    20. I added some biographical details for Bavarian Hauptmann Hans Streit (HOH3X on 31.1.18) here: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=2461229#p2461229 He received the Deutsches Kreuz in Silber as Oberst z.V. and Chef des Stabes des Befehlshabers im Bezirk Nordostfrankreich.
    21. Prussian award came on 27.7.1917. Bavarian Genehmigung zur Annahme came later, 28.8.1917 I think.
    22. There are only two officers with the Tiede/Tiedje name in the official sources. Both are identified as from the Fliegertruppe. • Lt.d.R. Tiede from Feldflieger-Abteilung 73 received the HOH3X on 27.1.1917. It was gazetted in the Staatsanzeiger on 5.2.1917 and in the Militär-Wochenblatt on 8.2.1917. • Lt.d.R. Tiedje on the staff of Kampfgeschwader 2 der OHL received the HOH3X on 22.01.1918. It was gazetted in the Staatsanzeiger on 1.2.1918 and in the Militär-Wochenblatt on 5.2.1918. The date of publication of the notice in the Hannoverscher Kurier (17.2.1918) would seem to fit the latter, but as you all have noted, Walter's bio shows no connection to the Fliegertruppe. There were three active Leutnants Tiede, 12 Leutnants der Reserve and one Leutnant der Landwehr. There was one Leutnant der Reserve Tiedje and two Leutnants der Landwehr. Leaving aside the active officers, these were: • Tiede, Karl, *23.10.1892 in Wersk; Lt.d.R. (III Berlin) d. GR 4, bei der Schutztruppe für Kamerun eingezogen, 1.6.15 schwer verwundet, in englischer Gefangenschaft; EK1 • Tiede, Felix Gustav Eduard, *25.2.1889 in Danzig, †14.6.1978 in Hamburg; 21.10.14 Lt.d.R. im RIR 61, im IR 175; Architekt in Danzig; EK2, ÖM3K • Tiede, Fritz, * in Leipzig; 7.11.14 Lt.d.R. (Erfurt) im RIR 82, IR 188, gef. 2.8.1915 bei Schratzmännle • Tiede, Max, *29.3.1882 in Berlin; 27.1.15 Lt.d.R. (II Berlin) im LIR 48, vermißt 24.2.1915 bei Przasnysz, für † erklärt • Tiede, Arnold Erdmann Willy, *2.10.1890 in Cottbus; 15.2.15 Lt.d.R. (Cottbus) des 1.GRzF; Stud.jur. an der Universität Rostock; MMV2 • Tiede, Ernst, *16.3.1891 in Johannisburg, Allenstein, gef. 18.5.1918 b. Nouvion; 13.4.16 Lt.d.R. (IV Berlin), zur Zeit bei der Feldflieger-Abteilung 55; Kandidat der Ingenieurwissenschaften an der Technischen Hochschule Charlottenburg; EK1 • Tiede, Fritz, *6.10.1882 in Danbarren, Insterburg; 13.5.16 Lt.d.R. (III Berlin) im Ers./RIR 35 • Tiede, _____, * [?]; 16.12.16 Lt.d.R. (II Trier) des IR 29 • Tiede, Richard, * [?]; 26.2.17 Lt.d.R. (Bremerhaven) der Fußartillerie • Tiede, Werner Eduard, *28.11.1886 in Berlin, †11.3.1927 ebd.; Mitglied des KFAC beim Stabe einer Kavallerie-Division, 3.5.17 Lt.d.R. (IV Berlin) des Kraftfahr-Bataillons; Fabrikdirektor, zivil. Ballonfahrer, Mitglied des Deutschen Luftfahrer-Verbandes; EK2 • Tiede, Heinrich Otto Thomas Karl, *24.9.1896 in Wismar, †23.12.1946 in Tscherepowez, UdSSR; 17.7.18 Lt.d.R. (Wismar) des FAR 54; Oberfrontführer der Organisation Todt • Tiede, _____, * [?]; 7.10.18 Lt.d.R. (II Königsberg) des FußAR 17 • Tiede, Georg, * [?]; 5.3.18 Lt.d.L.-Inf. I (Danzig) mit Patent vom 1.5.18 • Tiedje, Hans Joachim Albert, *30.10.1884 in Wandsbek, †17.7.1940 in Hamburg; 6.11.14 Lt.d.L.-Jäg. (I Altona) beim Etappen-Flugzeugpark 7, in der (Kgl. Sächs.) FFA 29; SA3bX • Tiedje, Johannes, *7.10.1879 in Skrydtstrup, Hadersleben, †18.5.1946 in Flensburg; Vor dem 1.WK Pastor in Königsberg, 1.5.15 Kriegsfreiwilliger im UR 6, 31.7.16 Lt.d.L.-Kav. I (Königsberg), 14.2.17 zum Gouvernement Bukarest, 21.5.17 Verpflegungsoffizier bei der Militär-Verwaltung Rumänien, 3.5.18 erkrankt, 17.5.18 beim stellv. XVIII. AK, 1.7.18 Kriegs-Wirtschafts-Offizier beim stellv. XVIII. AK, 9.2.19 entlassen, Ministerialrat im Reichsministerium des Innern, 8.9.45-xx.2.46 Landrat des Kreises Flensburg; EK2, HT, BMO[3]Kr, ÖM3K • Tiedje, Walter, *13.06.1895 in Hannover, †10.04.1954 in Walsrode; Kriegsfreiwilliger im IR 74, xx.14 z. RIR 230, 18.6.15 Lt.d.R. (I Hannover), xx.16 z. LIR 384, 7.18 z. RIR 32 There was a Hans Tiede who was promoted on 1.12.42 to Major d.R.z.V. (Flak) in the Luftwaffe. Given that he was Flak, he might have been the active FußAR 2 officer or the FußAR 17 Lt.d.R. above. Regarding the 1917 award to Lt.d.R. Tiede, Ernst seemed like the most likely candidate, since he's the only one with a known connection to the Fliegertruppe. The death announcement in the 1.6.18 edition of Zentralblatt der Bauverwaltung only mentioned the EK1, but ZBBV death announcements rarely mentioned other awards besides the Iron Cross. Regarding the 1918 award to Lt.d.R. Tiedje, despite the lack of a known connection to Kagohl 2, Walter seems likely, since the other Tiedjes were Lts.d.L., and the Militär-Kabinett and MWB rarely make such a mistake. Hans Tiedje does have the aviation connection, but again was a Landwehr officer. I guess I am more inclined to think the Militär-Kabinett listed the wrong unit than that the Militär-Kabinett, Staatsanzeiger and MWB all got the wrong rank and the Hannoverscher Kurier announced the wrong person. I can't say for certain, though.
    23. Bröse is listed as a Reichsbankrat in Berlin in the 1924 Mitgliederverzeichnis of Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 20. No biographical information there, but according to the casualty lists, he was born in Kiel.
    24. Hauptmann der Reserve Moritz Moosmayer from Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 13 was born on 19 May 1970 in Weißenstein, Oberamt Geißlingen, Königreich Württemberg. He was a Württembergischer Oberförster/Forstmeister in Justingen and is listed as a Major der Reserve a.D. after the war. According to a family tree, he died on 19 February 1967, but no source is given. He received the HOH3X on 18.9.1918 and was thrice decorated by Württemberg, with the WF3aX, then the Militärverdienstorden in place of the WF3aX, and then in 1918 the WF3aX again. Although he was a Prussian officer, he has a personnel file and Nachlaß in the archives in Stuttgart.
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