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Mongolia Mongolian awards on stamps
Ed_Haynes replied to Ed_Haynes's topic in People's Republic Mongolia
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Mongolia Mongolian awards on stamps
Ed_Haynes replied to Ed_Haynes's topic in People's Republic Mongolia
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Having long since given up philately for phaleristics, as I suspect others have, the various Mongolian stamps showing awards may be of interest.
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Odd and interesting, though likely not Mongolian. Thanks for sharing, eye-candy is always nice.
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Both were viewed as nationalists, in their own way, and both fought the Brits.
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The information I have is: See: http://faculty.winthrop.edu/haynese/medals/myanmar.html (Though I have more information not online.)
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And awards to Mongolians seem immensely uncommon. Most awards went to Soviets or other COMENCON "friendlies". Shall be posting a documented set soonish.
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Mongolia Mongolian Partisan Badge
Ed_Haynes replied to Stogieman's topic in People's Republic Mongolia
Not sure how different the older book is. Translation has been requested. -
Would be happy to do so -- and would have done so already -- but I do not have moderator rights over here.
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Very very nice. A friend picked one up in Myanmar last year, but not to this quality!
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Mongolia Medal for Unselfishness
Ed_Haynes replied to Ed_Haynes's topic in People's Republic Mongolia
Yes this one is being faked, 100% for sure. Beware. Working to get some good comparative closeups. (Which means, I guess, that I'm working to find a fake to buy?) -
After talking this through and looking at specimens when we were in Ulanbaatar, Battushig, Jan, and myself have proposed the theory that what are presently shown as D 03a and D 03b, the gilded and all-silver varieties of the Honorary Chekist Badge are in fact one and the same thing. As with other badges, the gilding is so thin that in many specimens the gilt wears off or simply evaporates on its own over time. This would suggest a single combined variety here, with the lowest serial number observed as 14 and the highest as 975 (the number ranges of the two old types overlapped in any event). Please squint at your specimens and share your observations and thoughts.
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After protracted consultation among Battushig, Jan, and myself in Ulanbaatar, we have reached the conclusion that we are looking at but two varieties of these badges. There is a silver mirror reverse badge with engraved serial number (current A 51.1 and A 51.2) that is so lightly gilded on the obverse that the gilt easily wears off or even simply evaporates entirely. There is also a silvered bronze flatback version with stamped serial number (current A 51.3), although here, too, the coating is fairly transient and is often badly worn or gone alltogether. Thus, rather than there being three "classes", as it might seem from the current classification, we have a single-class badge in two (chronological?) varieties. Please take a look at your collection and see if this makes sense. This means we are looking at a: Type 1 - mirror reverse - Low 206/High 5009 Type 2 - flatback - Low 269/High 503 The type 2 remains a fairly uncommon item, although we have no clear guess on which is the older badge. Reliable documented sets might help, but what documents carry badge numbers?
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Yes, a nice pair. A documented pair or just two nice orphans?
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Mongolia "New" book on Mongolian awards
Ed_Haynes replied to Bob's topic in People's Republic Mongolia
Be aware that the last copies of Battushig's book have left the author to go to various dealers. It may therefore be considered "out of print". No reprinting or revision into a new edition is contemplated. Very soon, I fear, this book will itself enter the world of the "collectable" (rather like McD & S). If you want one, you'd better snag one "soon". -
Found while looking for something else (as seems to be usual on the internet): http://www.redcross.mn/english/awards.html
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Mongolia Mongolian Partisan Badge
Ed_Haynes replied to Stogieman's topic in People's Republic Mongolia
While in UB, I saw -- but was unable to purchase -- a very late document for this award, one from 1963 (!?). What is even more interesting is that it was in Cyrillic, and I was able to get a generic translation of the text from one of our UB friends. The handwritten note inside the front cover read: "Since Partisan [name] passed away, his partisan booklet is given as an inheritance to his wife [name]." And the text: "[date] MONGOLIAN PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC PARTISAN COMMITTEE On [date] the recipient of this booklet [name], born in [place], is recognised as an active particpant in the Sukhbaatar partisan movement [?] in 1921 in the fight for the independence of the Mongolia People's Republic against foreign intervention and the feudalists. For the honor of being a partisan this booklet is given with other priviliges. State Khurall, head of partisan committee, [name] Mongolian People's Republic 1921 Partisan Rule 1. The partisan's identification booklet will only be given to a participant in the 1921 partisan movement from a State Khural partisan's committee. 2. To prove participation in active partisan combat and in order to receive the booklet the partisan must submit proof of actually having been a partisan by providing documentary material or testimony by at least three people with whom he fought during the partisan struggle. 3. The partisan's booklet must have a photo ID and should be only for personal use. Privileges of Partisan 1. If the partisan loses the ability to work when he gets old and does not have a caretaker, the government will be responsible to provide a pension. 2. On request of the partisan he may present a request for the pension to the residential district authorities and from them to the State Khural. 3. A partisan who does not receive a pension from government who experiences a sudden emergency will be able to receive a one-time payment of 600-1200 Tugrics. 4. Partisans residing in public apartments will have a 50% discount on monthly rent. 5. Partisans who are moving from the city to the countryside or from the countryside to the city will have the privilege of free transportation once a year; public transport in the city will also be free. 6. Partisans will be excused government tax. 7. After the death of the partisan his family will have the privilege to apply for help from the government. 8. Partisans owning livestock will have a 20% reduction on livestock taxes. 9. Partisans will be served in expedited order in shops, hospitals, and public offices." Interesting?? -
See also the main thread at: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5294
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See also a lost post at: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=8937
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Mongolia Mongolian Phaleristic Society
Ed_Haynes replied to Ed_Haynes's topic in People's Republic Mongolia
Yes, it is my understanding that they will be -
I have very reliable information, from The Best of Sources, that by this fall, the Mongolian Phaleristic Society will be fully operational and will be open for membership applications. A certificate and membership badge (!) has been designed. Watch this space for further information!
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Mongolia Pix of orders / medals being worn
Ed_Haynes replied to Vatjan's topic in People's Republic Mongolia
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Mongolia Pix of orders / medals being worn
Ed_Haynes replied to Vatjan's topic in People's Republic Mongolia
The familiar photo of Ts. Gotov, but here shown uncropped. Obtained from his justifiably proud grandson.