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Dear Jacky, nobody knows what else was on the bar. I believe it was possble to wear both, medal and Red Eagle Order since we are talking about officially unrelated awards. Andreas

Heiko, I am very sorry to hear this. Do you have pictures of those groups for easier identification? Andreas

and the answer is: [attachmentid=61755]

OK, here is one: [attachmentid=61732]

Dear Greg, in case you read german you will find this interesting: Red Eagle Order Medal and: Crown Order Medal Enjoy

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The saxons actually alowed that. Bars showing 2 of the same order are actually common.

Hausorden Lippe-Detmold Ehrenkreuz 3.Klasse mit Schwertern (House-Order Lippe-Detmold Honor Cross 3rd class with swords) [attachmentid=59340]

Hausorden Lippe-Detmold Ehrenkreuz 4.Klasse 1.Abteilung mit Schwertern (House-Order Lippe-Detmold Honor Cross 4th class 1st division with swords) [attachmentid=59339]

Hausorden Lippe-Detmold Ehrenkreuz 4.Klasse 2.Abteilung mit Schwertern (House-Order Lippe-Detmold Honor Cross 4th class 2nd division with swords) [attachmentid=59338]

That is quite interesting as well. I was just blown away when I saw this one. He must be some kind of NCO rank, holding the sword IOD89 in his hand. I am sure there are not many local folks that got even one medal. He is wearing his with justified pride.

All right then. I do not want to push this to far....lets open the curtain for this brave Kamerun Police Man: [attachmentid=58923]

Here a picture of the Mecklenburg medal. [attachmentid=58911] Looks good to me. The ribbon was white with light blue yellow and reddish stripes, so would fit the color scheme on the black and white picture as well. So, anybody figured out which proud soldier this could be?

I will need to check into the Mecklenburg medal. One more hint: it is a group photo taken in KAMERUN

Just came accross a picture with an interesting little medal bar, yet, after thinking and thinking I am not able to figure out what medal he wears on the middle position of his medal bar. any help? [attachmentid=58760] Of course the first position would be the Kriegerverdienstmedaille 2nd class in Silver, last Prussia: Crown order medal.

The original tooling was actually made by Hossauer, who was eventually taken over by Wagner. This means that the tooling and hence the pieces are pretty much identical. Differences are only the marking by either Hossauer on the reverse or site, yes site, of the pieces and the way the eagle in the middle of the piece was finished. Wilm was the official manufacuturer after WWII. Yes, they are expensive but extremly rare. The modern pieces are property of Germany. This link will take you to some more pictures: PlM for Arts and Science Scroll all the way down for the Arts and Science version.

and the answer is: Oberst z.D. Karl Kraemer. MVO 4a am 18. Januar 1913 in Metz als Major. MVO 3a X Sv am 29. April 1917 als Oberst. RAO 3 Schl Schw am 14. September 1918.

You are very welcome. I will admit that I do buy a Virginia Lottery ticket from time to time - but those are only US $ 1.- per try Anyway, here is a real Napoleonic PlM for your enjoyment: [attachmentid=54028]

I wonder what was removed totally? Must have been something very special.

I thought I put something together on this topic. Please check out the following link for more detailed information: Albert Order Manufacturers @ www.medalnet.net [attachmentid=52642]

Nice piece made by the orders and decorations manufacturer Neuhaus & Sohn. Congrats...

...just for comparision the higher knight grade of the eagle: It is extremly thin and hollow made to yet safe even more gold.

the case is not specially signed

Sorry to say, but why would a KO4 device have a crown? I would think this is a RAO 4 Crown and Swords.