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Oberst and 1.Adjutant in 17 Armee for August 1943... EDIT 4th Mar 2012: Identified as Hans Röhricht

And an Oberst with position of Regiment Kdr of IR 547...

Unknown Hauptmann and Komapnie Kdr of 2./Pz.Rgt 8 and dated for late 1938. According to Das Deutsche Heer 1939 which was compiled for just a few months later, the Kompanie Kdr was Hauptmann von Hendebreck but I just can not see that name in that signature.

Oberst Ernst Schreder. Born: 21st Jun 1892 Died: 6th Dec 1941 (Died of wounds received on 3rd October 1941) Highest rank reached: Generalmajor (Posthumous promotion on 20th Apr 1943 with seniority backdated to 1st Dec 1941) Kommandeur Infanterie Regiment 22 Kommandeur Infanterie Regiment 405 Kommandeur Infanterie Regiment 254 DKiG - 19th Dec 1941 (Posthumous) Image: IAB Citation.

Oberstleutnant Gustav Frhr. von Bodenhausen. Image: WW-1 EK II Kl citation

Generalleutnant Richard Heinrich Karl von Conta. Born: 24th Nov 1856 Died: 20th Jan 1941 Highest rank reached: General der Infanterie Kdr 1 Infanterie Division Kdr IV Reservekorps / Karpathenkorps Kdr Corps Conta Commanded 1 Infanterie Division during the Battle Of Tannenburg. Commanded Corps Conta against US Marines in the Battle for Belleau Wood. Pour le Merite - 15th Oct 1916 / Oakleaves - 26th Mar 1918

Oberst Rudolf Sintzenich Born: 13th Jul 1889 Died: 24th Dec 1948 Highest rank reached: Generalleutnant Kdr Infanterie Rgt 61 Kommandant des rückwärtigen Armeegebiets 671 / Oberfeldkommandantur 671 Kdr 33 Infanterie Division Kdr 132 Infanterie Division Kdr Division Nr 147 / Reserve Division 147 Kdr Division Nr 467 Ritterkreuz - 15th Aug 1940

Thank you very much 'arb' - that is absolutely great.

And #2...

I know nothing about WW1 signatures and the following are two of the very few I have...

Once again, thanks for that. It always looks obvious once someone else has identified it!

Another one to identify - signature of an officer in the SS-Totenkopf division. The upper signature is that of Karl Thier who was killed in action in 1941 but I have not been able to identify the lower signature...

SS-Obersturmbannführer Kurt Hafke Born: 2nd June 1903 Leiter der Staatspolizeistelle Stettin Image: Letter

As for Number 1, Helmut Richter held the position of Höh.Kdr Festungs-Flak-Artillerie III from April 1940 to January 1941 as a Generalmajor (promoted to Generalleutnant 1st August 1941). I believe he took over from Oskar Bertram.

Do you have a date for the second one as it could be Georg Neuffer who commanded 5 Flakdivision as a Generalmajor from April to November 1942.

Thank you very much - much appreciated.

Thanks for that Dave - definitely not Grolig then! Aufkl.Abt 6 Kdr at the beginning of 1939 was Major Frhr von Eckhardtstein, and after his (the soldier whose WP it is) service with I./Aufkl.Rgt 6 he went to the Kriegsakademie in November 1938. Whoever the Oberstleutnant is it could be assumed that if he was an Oberstleutnant in early 1938 he would of reached General rank (if he was seen as such material by his superiors) but of course there are probably loads who should of but never did for one reason or another, including death.

An Oberstleutnant from June 1939 with Kampfgruppe zbV 2. www.ww2.dk shows the Gruppenkommodeur for this period as Obstlt von Lindenau - can anyone confirm if it is his signature?

Stamp shows I Abteilung Aufkl.Rgt 6 and dated 1938 with the signing officer being an Oberstleutnant and Kommandeur (of the Aufkl.Rgt rather then the Abteilung I'm assuming). In the aforementioned book in the above post, the commander of the Abt is no higher then a Major and there is no mention of an Aufkl.Rgt 6 (unless I can't see it for looking). But under Aufkl.Abt 8 there is an Oberstleutnant in command with the name of Grolig and in brackets there is the notation (Aufkl.Rgt 6). The soldier (an officer) whose WP this is did serve with Aufkl.Abt 8 from Oct 1935-Oct 1937 before going to I./Aufkl.Rgt 6 from Oct 1937-Nov 1938 (or was it a case of Abt 8 being renamed as the I Abt of Aufkl.Rgt 6?). Anyway, I can't see the name of Oswin Grolig in that signature but you never know I suppose where a squiggle is concerned!

Generalmajor shown as Kommandeur Wehrbezirkskommando in Berlin in 1936. Unfortunately by the time the listings seen in Das Deutsche Heer 1939: Gliederung, Standorte, Stellenbesetzung und Verzeichnis sämtlicher Offiziere am 3.1.1939 were compiled none of the various Kommandeurs of the Berlin W.B.K's were above the rank of Oberst.

The Ehrenkreuz is indeed an underrated source for signatures (until this thread anyway!) and a lot of the time the dealers don't do their homework when it comes to these humble documents, presumably thinking that no-one of note would possibly sign them.That example of Helldorf that you have posted is a great example and I have also seen such citations bearing hand signed signatures of Guderian, von Brauchitsch and Dollmann to name just a few.

Interesting question (nice set by the way). While I can't say with any certainty I don't think it would affect the status of the citation - but then again there is always the case that they didn't have any formal citations available and knew that in all probability this was all he was going to get.

NEW - With a view to helping members identify those unknown signatures in their collections a new set of threads have been added and pinned to the start of this Database with one each for the relevant arm of service for both WW1 & WW2 as well as ones for those signatures that do not fit into one of the other categories. So if you have such a signature please feel free to post it in the relevant Unidentified thread and maybe another member will be able to help put a name to the squiggle! Once a signature has been identified please add it to the database under the signers own name.

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