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I think that probability of such awarding (with collaborator medal) after 1945 is close to zero. That is if this order/medal indeed was issued by Nanking government I believe currently we are left with two options a) this medal doesn't belong to the Baron's group (but frankly I simply couldn't imagine how (and why!) this interesting and eccentric (for british citizen) award was added to this group!) b) this medal was issued before (or after) 1940-1945 period and not by Nanking government By the way, judging by the quality of this piece, it could be issued between 1945 and 1949 ... This is definitely not your usual high-quality Japanese work. Even the form of suspension ball is different Regards, Nick

Hi Owain, you see, the real problem is that 1st Baron Amulree and 2nd Baron Amulree were Subects of the Crown. If we are talking about 1940-1945 period for this medal, then we have a real problem! How it could be awarded to british cititizen when Japan and GB were in the state of war with each other. Not to mention that (if I remember correctly) in 1943 this puppet Nanking government directly declared war on GB and US Best, Nick

... and back to the main question "Is it possible that someone got 2 Finnish Liberty medals?" which in our case should be slightly reformulated "Is it possible that german serviceman got 2 Finnish Liberty medals?" Is it indeed absolutely impossible? Simply want to know what you are thinking about this possibility lads As for empirical evidence (i.e. german bars that we saw on the market and in private collections) - I agree - usually we observe only one Liberty medal (1st or 2nd class). Regards, Nick

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But I was under the impression that absence of this medal couldn`t be indispensable evidence against this or that bar ... Obverse

Or this one (quite surreal bar ) ...

Indeed this medal often could be found together with Liberty medal or Libery Cross in german bars. Here comes another (additional to KR Andreas) examples.

I know it Andreas Simply wanted to show that one man could be awarded with both (1st and 2nd) classes. Cheers, Nick

Back to the original piece that was posted by topic starter. If this order/medal was indeed issued by Wang government after 1940, then I simply couldn't understand how 1st Baron Amulree could became it's cavalier! Could you? Cheers, Nick

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http://www.finnmedals.net/epages/Kaupat.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Finnmedals/Products/00308 http://www.finnmedals.net/epages/Kaupat.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Finnmedals/Products/057201206 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Finland-WWII-1939-40-Rare-Foreigners-Winter-War-Medal-2-Liberty-Medals-/190681811729?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c65858b11#ht_534wt_689

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Forget to mentioned another terrible, unacceptable () flow - "splashed" gold gilt at obverse ... Our Baltic beauties wouldn't allow themselves something like that Not to mentioned that they actually made in silver and have correct weight (approximately, ee) and dimensions. Cheers, Nick

Hi Uwe, indeed very nice fake! Better copy than "Baltic" Courage? Hmmm. It hasn't typical for "Baltic" Courage flows, but it has it own and quite profound flows Serious problems with shades of white (especially) and red enamel. Too embossed line under the number. Wrong handwriting of course ... Interesting that MONDVOR has #250 http://mondvor.narod.ru/OLMuzh.html and earlier I showed # 255 But overall very impressive quality, especially for mid 90s! 150 DM? Regards, Nick

Russian rear admiral Alexander Kazy. The photo was made somewhere between 1987 and 1918. On the Admiral chest we see order of white elephant 3rd class Cheers, Nick

You don’t see something like that every day…

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Another example of Type N2 NCO badge. Inscribed one Obverse Reverse

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Hope this thread will save you some money Nick

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