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the cross you see here is defenately no copy or fake or not original as this ( production type ) cross had to be presented aproval by the officials before the L12 mark wood be put on it . making it a approved state medal,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, officially ..... but sure not produced in the 1914/18 war ,but in WW2

well well ,strong words AWS and Juncker where two auterised makers ,,,, they produced throu out the two wars . what ever is comming out off theyre production in those years is original maker produced medals. with 3 major caregory's (1) WW1 ,(2)period between the wars ,and (3) WW2 ,,, what you talking about is the first awarded medal . that is not the question here and a different ( much complexer story ). and if you want,,, I wood gladly go in to more deeply. but we need a special thread fore that indeed as marrauder said

al do 1939 era is not my speciality but I do see these before the L12 stamp looks good to me the frame looks like the known AWS mould in connection with juncker the core type is a typical AWS core also known in connection with JUncker the screw and disc device looks llike the typical type known fore the 1939 /45 period min condition .... I wood say wauw ,,,, but sharp closeups wood be nice fore the specialist here , who wood like to see them . regards kay

as you can see if your member off an collector forum ,the shops will come to you . being economic is a different story its best you start learning and getting away from being a beginner and ,,, you go to ebay or to a show regards kay

you better stop using image shag ... it is almost impossable to look at what is advertised without getting killed in advertising pupups there .... very ,very anoiying

if you like it ,,wy not ?

looks ok to me , prinzen I wood say regards kay Holland verzamelt.nl - about the makers off the stie

not original ,sorry regards kay Holland verzamelt.nl - about the makers off the stie

congratulations ,,,a nice example off the most wanted regards kay

its a different direction .... hopefully it brings me to the lost core info off medal making . kay

hello , Gents I am looking fore new way's off conducting my hobby,, collecting my own site developed wile playing around on the net very soon . after a wile it even became a serious thing as well . and it made clear to me that this is the best way fore me to express myself in my hobby . and stay out off trouble in the mean time I was thinking it is time to come out Moore openly,,,,, carefully slowly,,, getting back in to the INTERNET collectors world MAKE NO MISTAKE its no selling site the idea behind it is (was) to open an insight in to the research off an collector what can be scary as some things can potentially make a fool out off me but i found it important to give this insight to those who dos not have it available , Moore important as looking fore a impeccable reputation as collector as I know ,,even my mistakes will bring others closer to deeper research . hope you like it regards kay

I am glad someone appreciate such crosses mostly they pass unnoticed next to mint and frosting . tanks kay

blacklight BlackLight.com - Fun Lighting, Black Lights, Contemporary Furniture ... synthetics glow with black light .. but ,,,I never tested the general believes it would work ..... regards kay

(if it is not glowing up with black light ) chances are that this ribbon is one of the ribbons off a later date as 1918/20 . I wood say 1930 to 1950"s ,,hard to say what is not a problem ,, because most are from that period anyway . regards kay

the ribbon is hard to judge just by the picture you have ,,,I don't want to go in to that opinion wise . as fore the storing and keeping there is no storing and displaying method in the world that has not being try'd on these crosses so you can let youre fantasy go nuts as much as you want . just keep it away from moisture , chemicals ,acid;s and sticky fingers . and you be save .

there's no telling if the document and the cross artificial married ...or originally together from the start . but ,,,if you think it wood complete the picture you have in mind don't be a Ebenesar schcroodge with you're money . buy it .

well its hard to say anything with that kind off picture to be honest.

and the back.. Holland verzamelt.nl - 1870/1813 OBSERVATIONS

here's a good WILM mark Holland verzamelt.nl - 1870/1813 OBSERVATIONS

from a book I am selling ...on the sale section .

I like the most ,,,,, GMIC is politisch korrekt ,,,und keine rechtsextremistische narren ....

good news fore this forum did you know GMIC has a good reputation ongoing ? Bundesheer-Infoecke • Thema anzeigen - Gentleman's Military ... regards kay

put some afford in tho Book research about the old jewelers manners and methods off blackening Iron and silver Holland verzamelt.nl - collaring iron and silver and become sins then very enthusiast about Iron crosses with natural patina . so I had to have this one hope you like it regards kay

so ! ,is your question answered ,? if you want ?,,, I can send you a good picture off the book commenting about it , got some Moore interesting Books about tradition and word in the German army if you're interested .! ( not fore sale ,just in case someone gets the wrong impressions ) gladly helping out . regards kay

lets see what the Germans themselves had to say about it 1941