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    Josef Rietveld

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    1. This is what i have been told. The cross is a Rothe-copy. When you look at the crossarms-enamel you see the flingierung (pattern on the crosses surface) is missing. see picture of an original There are a lot of things missing: Producermark J(osef) S(ouval), dianahead (silver) and the R. Marschall for the crosses designer. Seven years ago such a cross was on the market with a backside-engraving for Prinz Eitel Friedrich. The good message: Even the Rothe-Copies are collected nowadays - so this MVK2 has some value. regards josef
    2. A very strange cross: - Frontside enamel and Verdienst appear normal. - wardecoration (enamel) and laurelleaf-design are different to official issued pieces - sworddesign = different - complete backside = different - the design of the laurelleaf indicating the second award is different aswell - NO Hallmarks BTW six of them were awarded My link Have a look at enzos superbe collection (later in the thread) I will ask a fellow collector. By now i don't know whre to put this special MVK you presented. josef
    3. Typ arround 1860 (left) and last type, both in Gold. haynau
    4. This seems to be a Commanders Cross. The Order of Milosh the great is seldom seen on the market. I guess it will range somewhere between 2000 to 5000 euro. jr
    5. These two medals cover a soldiers life and his fate. thanks for sharing josef
    6. Dear Gentleman, here a link to a IMHO brandnew copy of the large TWM. EBAY WHY: - louzy enamel quality - backside surface finish - awfull overstamping - quality of the Gazi sign -casted thugra in my opinion regards josef
    7. Dear Enzo, you have to check your browser (? ), on my screen ALL pictures are visible. Thanks for showing cimbineus. As you sure know the left case dates before the outbreak of WW1, the right one is post-1914. Per 23rd September 1914 the one-class Military Merit Cross (with and without wardecoration) was recreated in three classes (I., II, III).The former Military Merit Cross became then the new 3rd class. regards josef
    8. Dear Enzo, the dedicated etui was a lucky hit at the dorotheum inside is a standard MVK 3rd Class KD. Normálly I can't afford buying dedicated pieces. Here the names for the repeated award of the MVK 2/KD (all with swords) which was established per February/23rd April 1918: Oberst Rudolf Vidossich (27.2.1918) FML Josef Hrozny Edler von Bojemil (12.8.1918) FML Stanislaus von Puchalski (12.8.1918) FML Aurel von Le Beau (24.8.1918) FML Dr. Karl Bardolff (24.8.1918) - MMTO-knight, Pour le Merite, historian and writer, later SA-Oberführer, Reichstagsabgeordneter, General der Infanterie (1939) but saw no active service during WWII lived from 1865 to 1953 GM Karl Soos von Badok (9.11.1918) regards josef
    9. Sorry laurel leaves, as you mentioned all six repeated awards of the MVK 2 were versions WITH swords. If you are intersted i have the six names also. I will give my small contribution to this topic. I have one single MVK 2/KD (Marschall, Maker Souval) but i will show my 1st Type MVK. regards Josef
    10. Dear Enzo, this evening i have a bit time to reflect on the breathtaking collection of military merit crosses you presented a few days before. What a pleasure to look at. I must have taken years to bring them together. What do we have here in the first picture: A MVK 1/KDS (Wardecoration/Swords) a MVK 1/KD (Wardecoration only) a MVK 1/KD2S (Wardecoration of 2nd Class, Swords) a MVK 1/KD2 another MVK 1/KD2S a MVK 1 only 75 MVK 1 have been awarded to Fieldmarshalls, Central Power Nobility, Central Power High Ranking officers. Seven MVK 1/KDS; six MVK 1/KD in Brilliants, two MVK 1/KDS in Brilliants and 60 MVK 1/KD. All possible combinations have been produced as Vorlagestücke but IMHO only MVK 1/KD and MVK 1/KDS have been really awarded. So Enzo, your MVK 1/Variants are Vorlagestücke? They have the matching Marschall-Look. MVK 1 is a Reiter piece? When did you get the Hötzendorf MVK 1/KDS ?? Then we have two nice MVK 2/KDS (different swordvariants) and one MVK2/KD and one very special MVK 2/KDS repeated second award indicated by the additional oak leave. Established in early 1918 they awarded only six MVK 2/KDS repeated second award. I like the old ones especially. Maybe we talk about them later. Well Enzo that is really enough for minimum 3 collections. Thanks for showing. What matching Etuis (cases) do you have? josef
    11. A real golden Medal from Huguenin was recently sold for 1249 Euro at ebay.germany. My link
    12. The silver signum laudis was created in 1911 - short before the outbreak of ww1- so there are no differences between pieces issued 1911-1914 or 1914-1916, except silver ones with BRONZE on the rim dating from late ww1. The bronce one was issued from 1890 to 1918 josef
    13. Not bad, it was originally sold by the german auction house künkers 2009 (hammerprice 190 Euro) josef
    14. Exactly, or the socalled red-white kriegsband (with swords for frontline service from december 1916) onwards) as mentioned before josef
    15. IMHO another Künker-Piece that was sold as an original Ebay KUENKER josef
    16. Dear E.L, the pics ARE availlable you just have to click the links in the openening thread regards josef
    17. Dear Iver, congrats, you have got a really rare box here. josef
    18. Hi Detlef, this bar was recently presented in the largest german forum. it came straight out of the woodwork and the new owner didn't even know all decorations on the bar. So i have a good feeling that this bar wasn't manipulated at all. The Liberty Cross could be a german made spangenstück but i'am no expert on finnish decorations at all- regards josef
    19. I see clearer now. The second, older, Leopold-Order is a copy produced by ROTHE in the 1960ties. The made small series for collectors as General UHL and Fattovich. But this pieces have a tiny mistake. The motto reverse should be Opes regum corda subditorum but they wrote instead Opes recum. Also the Flinkierung (pattern beyond the enamel) is done to rough. This pieces are known in gilded bronze aswell as in real Gold. regards josef
    20. IMHO the first one is ok, for the second one, the older issue i will ask another better informed collector for his opinion. personally i don't like it. josef
    21. Thanks Claudius I will correct this and hope that some great RESEARCHER will once lift this mystery. josef
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